Room Conversation — September 29, 1972, Los Angeles

Prabhupāda: [Bengali] 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Eh? 

Prabhupāda: [Bengali] 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [Bengali] 

Prabhupāda: Oh simply warning? 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Just warning. 

Prabhupāda: Ah acha. hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak, hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak, hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak.[?] [door opens] 

Pradyumna: Śrīla Prabhupāda something about the tickets. We have those around the world tickets, we have round the world tickets and those tickets have a certain amount of. Have an itinerary. The itinerary is that we go from. 

Prabhupāda: That you understand, I cannot remember. 

Pradyumna: Well eh, there’s just one thing, that Karāndhara wanted me to ask about. That the tickets are going to be ah, 1900 apiece. 

Prabhupāda: Ah. 

Pradyumna: And Karāndhara just wanted you to know that the money is coming out of the book fund. 

Prabhupāda: Yes. Ask Karāndhara to see me. Yes… That is the… Called tactics. If the teachers are rascals themselves then there won’t be any fight. There should be [indistinct]. You know the tigers in the circus? 

Karāndhara: Yes. They pull out the whip but they never hit the tiger. 

Prabhupāda: Eh? 

Karāndhara: They never hit the tiger. 

Prabhupāda: Yes. 

Karāndhara: They just crack the whip. 

Prabhupāda: The tiger is so afraid simply by seeing that—he shuddered. Summarily it is not used. Simply in the hand. That is tactic. So if a tiger can be trained in that way, an animal, a ferocious animal and they cannot train the children? It needs a good teacher[?] Children will cry they will fight but you have to create. Teachers [indistinct] [LOUD] TAK! TAK! TAK! Immediately they stop. 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs] 

Prabhupāda: I have seen it… In our childhood I remember two teachers, we were so afraid we would going 50 miles away to avoid. 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs] 

Prabhupāda: It is [indistinct] even though [indistinct]. “What is Bhagavān doing he has had so many accidents.” It was going in the [indistinct] immediately transferred. He created such an atmosphere simply by seeing, all the children cried. 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Even in the [indistinct] we have some afraid—some type of fearness with the professors also [indistinct] we don’t have any. 

Prabhupāda: Well that is required or deviance is the first form… 

[Long pause] 

So you have, recording department has not paid me. 

Karāndhara: Not paid? 

Prabhupāda: Not paid and so what is that? 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs] 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: I mean about the credit? 

Prabhupāda: Yes. 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Yes its royalties. We pay from the records that sold. 

Prabhupāda: And when it will be sold? 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Well the first record will be ready in about a week. 

Karāndhara: They are bringing it [indistinct] did they get more work done on it? 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Yes [indistinct]. 

Prabhupāda: There was, there was a contract between a teacher and his students, law students. So the students says, “Sir I have no money I shall pay you when I practical.” [indistinct] so he says, “all right.” So after learning the law, so he was not going to the court… [indistinct] 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs] 

Prabhupāda: [laughs] So this proposal is like that. 

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs] 

Prabhupāda: Making recording, there is no sales, [indistinct] there is no sales, so when there is sales I’ll pay [indistinct] 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: It is common standard practice in the recording… 

Prabhupāda: Yes. 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: So when the sale is made the artist. 

Prabhupāda: Eh? 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Artist don’t usually get paid [indistinct] 

Prabhupāda: Artist do not get paid? 

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: No. 

Karāndhara: Sometimes they get advancement but goes against our future development. [indistinct] 

Prabhupāda: Oh yes. So you can practice it. Then the teacher did one practise he found a suitable criminal. 

Karāndhara: He [indistinct] in the court. 

Prabhupāda: Eh? 

Karāndhara: He [indistinct] in the court. 

Prabhupāda: Yes. So. 

Karāndhara: No respect for him. 

Prabhupāda: He wanted defence to rebel so then he said finally, “my Lord either you let him pay you know now he is practising.” This is called tit-for-tat. 

Karāndhara: Tit for tat? 

Prabhupāda: [indistinct] Tit-for-tat. The student was also clever but the teacher was also more clever. All right. 

[Devotee’s leave offering their obeisances] 

Prabhupāda: turn it off? 

Devotee: No it’s [indistinct]… [end] 

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