Los Angeles, April 26, 1973 - SB. 1.8.32 - Part 5 - (DVD 12)

SUBTITLES FOR SP18-1-1.8.32 LA 73

[00:01]ahuh-says;

[00:02]ajam-the unborn;

[00:06]jatam-being born;

[00:10]punya-slokasya-of the great pious king;

[00:17]kirtaye-for glorifying;

[00:21]yadoh-of King Yadu;

[00:28]priyasya-of the dear;

[00:34]anvavaye-in the family of;

[00:38]malayasya-Malaya hills;

[00:41]iva-as;

[00:41]candanam-sandalwood.

[00:45]“Some say that the Unborn is born for the glorification of pious kings,

[00:52]and others say that He is born to please King Yadu, one of Your dearest devotees.

[00:57]You appear in his family as sandalwood appears in the Malaya hills.”

[01:02]So there are two Malayas. One Malaya hill and one, this Malaya… Malaysia, now it is known as.

[01:20]Formerly, in this part of the world, Malaysia, they were growing sandalwood in great, large scale.

[01:32]Because 5,000 years ago, there was good demand for sandalwood.

[01:44]Every person should use the sandal pulp. Because in India, it is tropical country.

[02:03]So this is a good cosmetic. Still, those who can afford during very warm day of summer season,

[02:20]if you apply pulp of sandalwood on your body, you feel no warm. It is cool. Yes.

[02:32]So it was the system… Still that is going on, but a very small scale.

[02:39]That everyone, after taking bath, he should smear over the body with sandalwood pulp.

[02:50]It will keep the body whole day nice, cool and calm. So that was the cosmetic.

[03:04]Now, in the Kali-yuga, that is called prasadhanam.

[03:09]Just like, every country, the system is, after taking bath, you dress your hair, add something scented.

[03:20]So in India it was the system that after taking bath, having tilaka, going to the Deity room,

[03:32]offering obeisances, then the prasadam, candana-prasadam was taken from the Deity room and it was used.

[03:45]This is called prasadhanam. In Kali-yuga, in the, it is said that:

[03:54]snanam eva hi prasadhanam.

[03:56]If one can take bath nicely, that is prasadhanam. So much. No more this cosmetic

[04:08]or sandalwood oil or rose scent or rose water. These are finished.

[04:15]That snanam eva prasadhanam. Simply by, taking bath…

[04:21]While I was in India, in the beginning, so taking bath is very ordinary thing

[04:29]because even the poorest man will take early morning bath.

[04:35]But actually when I came to your country I saw that taking bath is also difficult thing.

[04:44]Taking bath, that is also not in practice. Perhaps once in a week.

[04:55]We are accustomed to see in India thrice in a day.

[05:01]And I have seen in New York that friends are coming to another friend’s house because

[05:11]one has no facility for taking shower bath. So coming to a friend’s house. Is it not?

[05:18]I have seen it. So the symptoms of Kali-yuga described that it will be very difficult also to take even bath.

[05:32]Snanam eva hi prasadhanam.

[05:35]And daksyam kutumba-bharanam. Daksyam. Daksyam meaning, means one who is famous for his

[05:48]pious activities. He’s called daksyam. Daksyam, this word comes from daksa.

[05:56]Daksa means expert. So daksyam kutumba-bharanam.

[06:02]In Kali-yuga, if a person can maintain a family… Family means wife and a few children, or one or two children.

[06:15]That is called family. But family does not mean in India like that. Family means a joint family.

[06:24]Joint family, the father, the sons, the nephews, the sister, husbands.

[06:36]They join together. That is called family. But in the Kali-yuga, it will be difficult even to maintain family.

[06:46]If one can maintain his family…

[06:51]In New York, when I was there, one old lady was coming. So he has, she had a grown-up son.

[07:02]So I asked her: “Why don’t you get your son married?” “Yes, he can marry if he can maintain the family.”

[07:10]I did not know that, that the maintaining of family is a difficult job here. I did not know that.

[07:18]So these are described in the Bhagavatam. If one can maintain a family, oh, he is very glorious man.

[07:29]“Oh, he’s maintaining five (?).” If the girl has got a husband, she is considered to be very fortunate.

[07:39]So actually these things are there.

[07:43]So it is not our business to criticize, but the symptoms of Kali-yuga is very, very severe,

[07:52]and it will grow more and more. We have simply passed 5,000 years only of the Kali-yuga,

[08:01]but the duration of Kali-yuga is 400,000, 432,000 of years, out of only we have passed 5,000 years.

[08:13]And after passing 5,000 years, we find so many difficulties, and the more we grow in this Kali-yuga,

[08:25]the days will be more and more difficult. So best thing is that you finish your Krsna consciousness

[08:33]business and go back to home, back to Godhead. That will save you.

[08:38]Otherwise, if we come back again, the difficulties, the difficult days are ahead. We have to suffer

[08:47]more and more. So Krsna is described here as Aja. Ajo ‘pi sann avyayatma bhutanam isvaro ‘pi san.

[09:01]That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Ajo ‘pi. “I am unborn.” Yes. Krsna is unborn.

[09:10]We are also unborn. But difference is that we have been entangled with this material body.

[09:22]Therefore we cannot keep our position as unborn. We have to take birth, transmigrate from one body

[09:30]to another, and there is no guarantee what kind of body you are going to get next. But you have to accept.

[09:39]Just like we are accepting in this life one body after another.

[09:45]The child is giving up his childhood body, accepting the boyhood body,

[09:51]The boy is giving up his boyhood body, accepting youthhood body.

[09:55]Similarly, this body of old age, when giving up, natural conclusion is that I will have to accept another body.

[10:05]Again childhood body. Just like there are seasonal changes. After summer, there is spring,

[10:16]or after spring there is summer, after summer, there is fall, there is, after fall, there is winter.

[10:22]Or after day, there is night, after night, there is day. As these, these are cycles one after another,

[10:31]similarly, we are changing body one after another.

[10:36]And natural conclusion is that after changing this body I’ll get another body.

[10:42]Bhutva bhutva praliyate.

[10:45]This is very logical and supported by the sastra and spoken by the greatest authority, by Krsna.

[10:54]And why should you not accept it? If you don’t accept, that is foolishness.

[11:00]If you don’t think that there is no life after death, that is foolishness.

[11:07]There is life after death. So because we are accepting one body after another since time immemorial,

[11:21]we cannot think of that there is life eternal. It is difficult for us.

[11:30]Just like a diseased man. He’s lying down on the bed and eating there,

[11:39]passing stool there, passing urine there, and he cannot move and very bitter medicine.

[11:48]So many inconvenience. He’s lying down. So he’s thinking of committing suicide.

[11:55]“Oh, this life is very intolerable. Let me commit suicide.” So in desperate condition sometimes

[12:08]the philosophy of voidism, impersonalism is followed. To make the things zero.

[12:15]Because this life is so much troublesome, sometimes even one commits suicide to get out of this,

[12:24]I mean to say, troublesome life of material existence.

[12:29]So the philosophy of voidism, impersonalism is like that. Mean they cannot, shudder, to think of another life,

[12:41]again eating, again sleeping, again working. Because he thinks eating, sleeping, means on the bed.

[12:48]That’s all. And suffering. He cannot think otherwise. So the negative way, to make it zero.

[12:55]That is void philosophy.

[12:56]But actually that is not the case. The case is that you are in trouble on material condition.

[13:08]You get out of this material condition. Then there is real life, eternal life.

[13:15]Because we are part and parcel of Krsna. Krsna is Aja. Aja means who has no birth and death.

[13:25]So we are also aja. How we can be otherwise? If Krsna, I am Krsna’s part and parcel.

[13:34]The same example we can see. If my, if my father is happy, so I am the son of my father.

[13:43]Why I shall not be, I shall be unhappy? This is natural conclusion.

[13:48]Because I will enjoy my father’s property as my father is enjoying.

[13:54]Similarly God is all-powerful. Krsna is all-powerful, all beautiful, all-knowledge, everything complete.

[14:02]So I may not be complete, but because I am part and parcel, so I have,

[14:09]I have got all the qualities of God in part and parcel. It is not that…

[14:16]So God does not die. He’s aja. So I also will not die. This is my position.

[14:21]And that is explained in the Bhagavad-gita that: na jayate na mriyate va kadacit.

[14:29]When He’s describing about the soul, Krsna says that the soul is never born, na jayate, na mriyate.

[14:42]And if one is not born, how he can die? There is no question of death.

[14:48]Death is for a thing which has got a birth. If one has no birth, there is no question of death.

[14:57]Na jayate na mriyate va. So we are part and parcel of Krsna. As Krsna is Aja, we are also aja.

[15:09]That we do not know. This is ignorance. This is ignorance.

[15:16]They are making scientific researches, but they do not know that every living entity is spirit soul.

[15:27]He has no birth. He has no death. He’s eternal. Nityah sasvato ‘yam,

[15:33]everlasting, puranah, although oldest, na hanyate. The conclusion: na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20].

[15:46]So after the annihilation of this body the soul does not die. He accepts another body.

[15:53]This is our disease. This is called bhava-roga. Bhava-roga means material disease.

[16:00]So Krsna, being the Supreme Living Entity, nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam Krsna is exactly like us.

[16:13]Or we are imitation of Krsna. The difference is Krsna is vibhu, unlimited, and we are anu, we are limited.

[16:24]That is the difference. Otherwise, qualitatively, we are as good as Krsna.

[16:32]Therefore whatever propensities Krsna has, we have got all these propensities.

[16:40]Krsna has the propensity to love the other sex. Therefore we have got this propensity, to love the other sex.

[16:51]The beginning of love is there in Radha and Krsna, eternal love between Radha and Krsna.

[17:01]So we are also seeking eternal love, but because we are conditioned by the material laws,

[17:08]it is interrupted. It is interrupted. So if we become out of this interruption,

[17:17]then we get similar love affairs as Krsna and Radharani.

[17:22]So our business should be how to go back to home, back to Krsna.

[17:32]Because going to Krsna means, Krsna is eternal, we get eternal body.

[17:40]Just like to become a secretary or even a servant of President Nixon, he’s also big man.

[17:49]He’s also big man. Because unless one has got some special quality,

[17:55]he cannot become personal servant of President Nixon or his secretary.

[18:00]It is not possible. Not ordinary man can become President Nixon’s servant or secretary.

[18:09]Similarly to go back to home, back to Godhead means you get the same type of body, as Krsna has got.

[18:17]You become aja. Ajo nityah sasvato ‘yam. This is a disease, that we are changing our body. So Krsna is Aja.

[18:31]So Kunti says: kascid, kecid ahur ajam jatam. Ajam, the eternal, the unborn, is now has taken His birth.

[18:47]Then of course we can say that Krsna is taking birth. Yes Krsna takes birth but His birth is not like ours.

[19:01]That we should know. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: janma karma ca me divyam yo janati tattvatah [Bg. 4.9].

[19:10]Krsna is taking birth as the son of Devaki or Mother Yasoda, but He’s not taking birth exactly like us.

[19:21]That is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. When Krsna appeared,

[19:26]He did not come out or did not come out from the womb of Devaki.

[19:31]He first of all appeared. You have seen the picture. And then He became a small child on the lap.

[19:39]Therefore Krsna’s birth is transcendental. Our birth is by force, by the laws of nature.

[19:50]He’s not under the laws of nature. The laws of nature works under Him.

[19:58]Mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10].

[20:03]Prakrti, nature is working under the order of Krsna, and we are working under the order of nature.

[20:13]That is the difference. See… Krsna is the master of nature, and we are servant of nature.

[20:25]That is the difference. Mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate.

[20:29]Therefore Kuntidevi says: kecid ahur. Somebody says like that.

[20:39]Somebody says like that, that the unborn has taken birth. How the unborn can take birth?

[20:48]It appears like that but it is not taking birth. It appears just like He has taken birth like us. No.

[21:00]Therefore the, it is said, distinctly: kecid ahur. “Some foolish persons say like that.”

[21:07]And Krsna has also said in the Bhagavad-gita: avajananti mam mudhah.

[21:14]“Those who are rascals. they think that I am also just like ordinary human being.”

[21:23]Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11].

[21:30]“Because I have appeared just like a human being, so some of the rascals, they think that I am also

[21:38]one of the human beings.” No. Param bhavam ajanantah. He does not know what is the mystery behind

[21:48]the God’s taking birth like human being. Param bhavam ajanantah. So similarly Krsna is aja.

[21:59]He takes birth likely, not exactly He takes birth. He is everywhere.

[22:07]Just like Krsna, it is stated: isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ‘rjuna tisthati, isvara [Bg. 18.61].

[22:19]If the Lord is situated in everyone’s heart, if that is a fact, so if Krsna is within your heart,

[22:26]within yourself, so if he immediately comes in your front, so what is the difficulty for Krsna?

[22:33]He’s already within, and He’s all-powerful. Just like Dhruva Maharaja. Dhruva Maharaja,

[22:42]when he was engaged in meditation, the form meditation, four-handed Visnu he was meditating upon.

[22:50]All of a sudden his meditation broke and he saw the same figure before him, immediately.

[22:58]Is it very difficult for Krsna? He’s already within you, and if He comes out…

[23:07]Similarly if Krsna is within the heart of everyone, Devaki also, so if He comes out

[23:18]before Devaki in the same four-handed form, is it very difficult for Krsna?

[23:22]So people do not know. Therefore Krsna says that: “You have to understand:

[23:32]janma karma me divyam, transcendental birth. My activities, My birth.”

[23:39]Therefore Kuntidevi knows that Krsna is unborn. Krsna does not take birth, but it appears like that to some fools.

[23:53]Therefore they say that Krsna has taken birth. But why Krsna takes birth?

[23:59]The next question will be. That is replied: punya-slokasya kirtaye, punya-slokasya.

[24:09]Those who are very pious, very advanced in spiritual understanding, to glorify them.

[24:19]Krsna comes to become the son of Devaki to glorify Devaki. Krsna becomes the son of Yasoda

[24:31]to glorify His devotee, Yasoda. Similarly Krsna appeared in the dynasty of Maharaja Yadu just to glorify.

[24:41]He was a great devotee of Krsna, and He is born in the family of Maharaja Yadu.

[24:50]The whole family is celebrated still: Yadava.

[24:54]Krsna’s name is Yadava, because He took His birth in the Yadu family.

[25:02]So how is it that, that Krsna took…? Now to glorify the family.

[25:08]Exactly, the example is given: Just like malayasyeva candanam. Candana. This is a tree.

[25:21]A tree can grow anywhere, but the sandalwood tree, because it is very prominent in the Malaysia country,

[25:38]formerly they were growing this candana tree, as I told you, because there was good demand,

[25:44]in India especially, of sandalwood. So they, nowadays they are growing rubber tree because there is

[25:54]good demand for rubber. So… So even after business… Kunti is giving this very nice example.

[26:07]This candana tree, it is a particular type of tree. It can grow anywhere.

[26:14]Not necessarily that it has to grow in Malaysia, or Malaya Hill. There is no such rules and regulations.

[26:25]It can grow anywhere. But because this sandalwood is grown in large quantity in such part of the world,

[26:35]the sandalwood is known as malaya-candana. Malaya-candana.

[26:41]Just like in, in your western countries, the scented water: eau de cologne.

[26:50]Eau de cologne. Cologne is a country in France…? And there it is manufactured, therefore it is called

[27:00]eau de cologne. Similarly eau de cologne can be manufactured anywhere, but originally because it was

[27:08]manufactured in that Cologne city, it is known as eau de cologne.

[27:12]Similarly sandalwood also can grow anywhere but because originally it was very prominent in the Malayas…

[27:21]Now 5,000 years ago, Kunti is offering this prayer. That means before 5,000 years,

[27:28]the sandalwood was growing in the Malaysia. So this Malaysia is not a new name.

[27:35]It was known thousands and thousands of years ago. And… All these places,

[27:45]they were Vedic culture. So similarly she’s giving the example that Krsna has no obligation

[27:55]that He has to take His birth in a particular family or particular country.

[28:02]He has no such obligation. But to glorify a certain family or certain person because he is devotee,

[28:11]therefore He has taken birth. The reason is He is appearing…

[28:16]Therefore it is called divyam, transcendental. He is not obliged. But we are obliged.

[28:23]That is the distinction between our taking birth and Krsna. We are obliged.

[28:28]If by our karma, by our activities, we are fit for taking birth in a good family,

[28:38]then I will get my birth in good family or in the human society or demigod society.

[28:47]But if my activities are lower grade like animals, then I will have to take birth in the animal family.

[28:55]That is force. Karmana daiva-netrena jantur deha upapattaye [Bhag. 3.31.1].

[29:01]We develop a certain type of body according to our karma.

[29:07]In this life… This human form of life is meant for athato brahma jijnasa, for understanding

[29:16]the Supreme. the Absolute Truth. But if we do not do so, if we simply remain like animal,

[29:23]then again we are going to the animal form of life. Misuse of the opportunity. Then we are…

[29:33]Therefore this Krsna consciousness movement is trying to save people from going down to animal life.

[29:40]Thank you very much.