Los Angeles, 1973 - SB. 1.8.23 - Part 2 - (DVD 11)

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[00:42]“O Hrsikesa, master of the senses and Lord of lords,

[00:46]You have released Your mother, Devaki, who was long imprisoned

[00:49]and distressed by the envious King Kamsa, and myself and

[00:54]my children from a series of constant dangers.

[00:56]So this is the position of devotees, that Devaki who happens to be the mother

[01:12] of Krsna… She’s not ordinary woman. Who can become the mother of the Supreme

[01:20]Personality of Godhead? The most advanced devotee, so that Krsna has agreed to

[01:31]become her son. In his previous life, the husband and wife, they underwent severe

[01:43]austerities, and when Krsna appeared before them and wanted to give them benediction,

[01:54]they wanted a son like God. So where can be another person who is equal to God?

[02:11]That is not possible. God means there is no equal. There is no greater. Asamordhva.

[02:20]That is God. God, there cannot be any competition, that “You are God, I am God,

[02:26]he is God, he is God.” No. These are dogs. They are not God. God means without

[02:33]competition: one. God is one. Nobody is great… asamordhva.

[02:40]Nobody is greater than Him. Nobody is equal to Him. Everyone is lower.

[02:46]Ekale isvara krsna ara saba bhrtya. The only master is Krsna, God;

[02:56]and everyone, servant. Never mind. Even if he’s Brahma, Visnu or Siva,

[03:05]big, big demigods. And what to speak of others?

[03:10]Siva-virinci-nutam. In the sastra it is said that He’s offered respect by Lord Siva

[03:19]and Lord Brahma. They are the topmost demigods. There are demigods.

[03:25]Above the human beings, there are demigods. As we are human being above the

[03:33]lower creatures, lower animals, similarly, above us there are demigods.

[03:40]And the most important demigod is Lord Brahma, Lord Siva. Lord Brahma

[03:47]is the creator of this universe, and Lord Siva is the destroyer of this universe.

[03:51]And Lord Visnu is the maintainer. Lord Visnu is Krsna Himself.

[04:00]So for the maintenance of this material world there are three gunas,

[04:08]sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. So each one of them has taken charge of

[04:16]one department. So Lord Visnu has taken the department of sattva-guna,

[04:22]and Lord Brahma has taken the department of rajo-guna, and Lord Siva

[04:30]has taken the department of tamo-guna. They are not under the influence of

[04:37]these gunas. Just like a, the superintendent of jail. He’s not a prisoner;

[04:44]he’s controlling officer. Similarly Lord Siva, Lord Visnu, Lord Brahma,

[04:54]although they are controlling each department, they are not under the

[05:00]controlling department. We may not commit mistake.

[05:04]So Hrsikesa. Krsna is the supreme controller. Hrsika. Hrsika means senses.

[05:16]So we are enjoying our senses, but ultimately the controller is Krsna.

[05:28]Suppose this is my hand. I’m claiming it is my hand: “I shall give you a

[05:37]good fist on your…” I’m very much proud. But I am not controller.

[05:44]The controller is Krsna. If you, if He withdraws the power of the activity

[05:51]of your arm, you become paralyzed. Although you are claiming,

[05:57]“It is my hand. I shall use it,” but when it is paralyzed, you cannot do anything.

[06:04]Therefore I may have possessed this hand by the grace of Krsna,

[06:12]but I am not the controller. That is Krsna consciousness. Therefore a sane man

[06:22]will think that ultimately if this hand is to be controlled by Krsna. Then it is meant

[06:29]for Krsna. This is the common sense understanding. I am claiming that

[06:38]“This is my hand, this is my leg, this is my ear.” Even children says.

[06:44]You ask the children, “What is this?” “It is my hand.” But we may claim,

[06:50]but actually it is not our hand. It is given for… Because I wanted to use my hands

[07:00]in so many ways, Krsna has given: “All right, you take this hand. Use it.”

[07:04]So it is gift of Krsna.

[07:07]Therefore a sane man is always conscious that “Whatever I have got in my

[07:16]possession, first of all, this body and senses, they are actually not mine.

[07:22]I have given all these possessions for utility. So if ultimately everything belongs

[07:34]to Krsna, why it is not utilized for Krsna?” That is Krsna consciousness.

[07:39]That is Krsna consciousness. That is intelligence. If I am given all these things

[07:49]for my use, for my sense gratification, but ultimately it belongs to Krsna…

[07:55]Mamaivamso jiva-bhutah [Bg. 15.7]. Everyone is part and parcel of Krsna,

[07:59]so everyone’s senses are also Krsnas.

[08:03]So when, when the senses are utilized for Krsna’s service, that is perfection of life.

[08:13]And so long it is utilized for my sense gratification, it is maya.

[08:20]Therefore bhakti means hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170].

[08:29]Hrsikena by the senses, this hrsikesa-sevanam, when you serve Hrsikesa,

[08:35]really master of the senses, that is called bhakti. Very simple description, definition of bhakti.

[08:46]Hrsikena…, hrsikesa-sevanam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Hrsikesa-sevanam. Not hrsika-sevanam.

[08:56]Hrsika means senses. So when senses are used for sense gratification, that is maya.

[09:05]And when senses are used for the gratification of the master of the senses, that is

[09:14]called bhakti. A very simple definition. Anyone can understand.

[09:18]So generally, in this material world, everyone is using the senses for sense gratification.

[09:29]That’s all. That is their bondage. That is maya, illusion. And when he comes to Krsna

[09:37]consciousness, purified, when he understands that actually these senses are meant for

[09:45]satisfying Krsna, then he’s liberated person, mukta. Mukta-purusa. Liberated person.

[09:53]Iha yasya harer dasye karmana manasa vaca. When one comes to this position,

[10:02]that “My senses are meant for serving the master of the senses, Hrsikesa…”

[10:11]The master of the senses are, is sitting within your heart. In the Bhagavad-gita it is said,

[10:20]sarvasya caham hrdi sannivistah: “I am seated in everyone’s heart.”

[10:27]Mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca: [Bg. 15.15] “From Me remembrance, knowledge and

[10:35]forgetfulness is coming.” So why that? Because Krsna is so merciful, if I want to use my

[10:50]senses in a certain way, not my senses… It is Krsna’s, given.

[10:56]So Krsna gives the chance: “All right, utilize it.”

[11:01]Suppose I have got tongue. If I want, “Krsna, I want to eat stool. I want to taste stool,”

[11:12]“Yes,” Krsna will say. “Yes, you take this body of hog, and eat stool.” The master is there, Krsna.

[11:22]Therefore Krsna says, mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca [Bg. 15.15]. He gives you the body,

[11:28] reminds you, “My dear living entity, you wanted to eat stool?

[11:35]Now you have got a proper body. Now utilize. Here is stool also.” Similarly, if you

[11:42]want to become demigod, that also Krsna gives you chance. Anything…

[11:48]There are 8,400,000 forms of life. If you want to engage your senses

[11:55]in any type of body, Krsna is giving you:

[12:02]“Come on. Here is the body. You take.” But by using our senses

[12:14]ultimately we become senseless. Therefore Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya

[12:22]mam ekam saranam vraja: [Bg. 18.66] “Don’t do like this. Your senses are meant for serving Me.

[12:30]So you are misusing it. By misusing, you are being entrapped in different types of body;

[12:39]therefore to get relief from this tedious business of accepting one body

[12:46]and giving it up, again another body, again another… To continue this material

[12:52]existence, if you give up this process of sense gratification and surrender unto Me,

[13:00]then you are saved.” This is Krsna consciousness.

[13:03]So at the present moment, our senses are contaminated. I am thinking, “I am American,

[13:14]so my senses should be utilized for the service of my country, my society, my nation.”

[13:21]Big, big leaders, big, big so many things. So the real concept is that “I am American,

[13:29]so my senses are American senses. So it must be utilized for America.”

[13:36]Similarly Indians thinking, others are thinking. But none of them do know it that

[13:46]senses belong to Krsna. This is ignorance. No intelligence. They are thinking for the time being,

[13:55]that these senses, upadhi, designated… American senses, Indian senses, African senses.

[14:06]No. This is called maya. It is covered. Therefore bhakti means sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam.

[14:16]When your senses will be uncontaminated with all these designations, that is the beginning of bhakti.

[14:27]If I think, “I am American. Why shall I take Krsna consciousness? It is Hindu God,”

[14:33]that is foolishness. If I think “I am Muhammadan,” “I am Christian,” then you are gone.

[14:42]But if we purify the senses that “I am spirit soul. The Supreme Spirit Soul is Krsna.

[14:53]I am part and parcel of Krsna; therefore it is my duty to serve Krsna,” then you become free immediately.

[15:00]Immediately. You are no more American, Indian or African or this or that. You are Krsna-ized,

[15:08]Krsna conscious. That is wanted.

[15:11]Therefore Kuntidevi says, “Hrsikesa, my dear Krsna, You are the master of the senses,

[15:22]and for the sense gratification, we are fallen in this material condition of life, different varieties of life.”

[15:36]So we are suffering, and suffering to the extent, even one becomes Krsna’s mother…

[15:47]Because this is material world, she’s also put into suffering, what to speak of others?

[15:57]Devaki is so advanced that she has become the mother of Krsna, but still she’s put into difficulties.

[16:09]And difficulties by whom? By his brother, Kamsa. So this world is like that. Try to understand.

[16:18]Even you become Krsna’s mother, and even your brother, who is very nearest relative.

[16:26]So you, the world is such jealous, that if one’s personal interest is hampered,

[16:34]everyone will be ready to give you trouble. This is the world. Everyone.

[16:42]Even if he’s brother, even he’s father. What to speak of others? Khalena.

[16:48]Khala means jealous. This material world is jealous, envious. I am envious of you;

[16:56]you are envious of me. This is our business. This is our business.

[17:10]Therefore this Krsna consciousness movement is for such person who is no more jealous,

[17:10]who’s no more envious. Perfect person. Dharmah projjhita-kaitavo ‘tra

[17:20]paramo nirmatsaranam satam vastavam vastu vedyam atra [Bhag. 1.1.2].

[17:27]Those who are jealous and envious, they are within this material world.

[17:32]And those who are not jealous, they are in the spiritual world. Simple thing.

[17:40]You test yourself, “Whether I am jealous, envious of my other associates, friends, everything?”

[17:52]Then I am in the material world. And if I am not jealous, then I’m in the spiritual world.

[17:58]Anyone can test. There is no question of whether I’m spiritually advanced or not.

[18:05]You can test yourself. Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat [SB 11.2.42].

[18:10]Just like if you are eating, you’ll understand whether you are satisfied, whether your hunger is satisfied.

[18:17]You haven’t got to take certificate from others. Similarly, if you test yourself

[18:23]whether you are jealous, whether you are envious, then you are in the material world.

[18:28]And if you are not jealous, if you are not envious, then in the spiritual world.

[18:35]Then you can serve Krsna very nicely if you are not jealous. Because our jealous,

[18:44]enviousness has begin, began from Krsna. Just like the Mayavadis:

[18:48]“Why Krsna shall be God? I am, I am also God. I am also.”

[18:53]So this is the beginning of material life, to become envious of Krsna.

[19:00]“Why Krsna shall be enjoyer? I shall be enjoyer. Why Krsna shall enjoy the gopis?

[19:09]I shall become Krsna and enjoy, make a society of gopis and enjoy.” This is maya.

[19:18]Nobody can be enjoyer. Krsna therefore says, bhoktaram yajna…

[19:24]Sri Krsna is the only enjoyer. And if we supply ingredients for His enjoyment, that is our perfection of life.

[19:35]And if we want to imitate Krsna, that “I shall becoming God. I shall become an imitator enjoyer,”

[19:44]then you are in the maya. Simply our business is… Just like the gopis’ life.

[19:54]Krsna is enjoying, and they’re supplying the ingredients of enjoyment. Yes. This is bhakti.

[20:03]We are meant for… Krsna is supplying… The servant and master.

[20:10]The servant is being supplied all the necessities by the master, but the servant’s duty is to serve the master.

[20:20]That’s all. Eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam…

[20:30]These are the Vedic inform… Krsna is supplying you immense…, all the necessities of life.

[20:38]There is no scarcity. There is no economic problem. You simply try to serve Krsna.

[20:45]Then everything is complete. Because He’s Hrsikesa. And so much… If Krsna desires,

[20:54]there may be ample supplies. Just like in your country, there is ample supplies.

[21:02]In other country… I went to Switzerland: everything is imported. No supply.

[21:15]The supply is only, only snow. Take as much snow as you like. You see.

[21:17]Similarly everything is under the control of Krsna. If you become devotee,

[21:23]then there is no snow supply-simply food supply. And if you don’t become devotee,

[21:31]be covered with snow. That’s all. Covered with cloud. Everything is under Krsna’s control.

[21:36]So actually there is no scarcity. The scarcity is Krsna consciousness.

[21:42]So if you become Krsna conscious then everything is ample. There is no scarcity.

[21:48]This is the process. Tvaya hrsikesa… And here it is said: tvaya hrsi…

[21:55]Yatha hrsikesa khalena devaki. The world is full of dangers. But Devaki, Kuntidevi says,

[22:06]“But because Devaki is Your devotee, You saved her from the distresses offered by her envious brother.”

[22:21]As soon as the brother heard that “My sister’s son, eighth son of my sister will kill me,”

[22:29]oh, he was ready immediately to kill Devaki. So he was pacified by Devaki’s husband.

[22:38]It is the duty of the husband to give protection. “So my dear brother-in-law, why you are envious to your sister?

[22:47]After all, your sister will not kill you. Her son will kill you. That is the problem.

[22:54]So I shall deliver all the sons to you, then you can do whatever you like.

[22:59]Why you are killing this innocent girl, newly married? She is your younger sister, just like your daughter.

[23:07]You should give her protection. What you are doing this?”

[23:11]So Kamsa became pacified. He believed in the words of Vasudeva, that he’ll deliver all the sons,

[23:21]“And if you like, can kill.” He thought, “Let me save the present situation.

[23:28]After all, later on, mean, Kamsa gets a nephew; he may forget this enviousness.”

[23:35]But he’s never, never to forget. Yes. He killed all the sons and kept them in prison.

[23:43]sucarpita ruddha aticiram. Aticiram means for long time. So he was saved.

[23:55]Devaki was saved after all. Similarly if we take the position of Devaki and Kunti…

[24:03]Kunti, just like with her sons, Panca-Pandava, five Pandavas…

[24:08]After she became widow, the whole plan was, Dhrtarastra’s, “How to kill these children of my younger brother?

[24:20]Because, by chance, I was blind, so I could not get the throne of the kingdom.

[24:28]My younger brother got it. Now he’s dead. So at least my sons, they should get the throne.”

[24:37]That was his policy, Dhrtarastra’s policy: “I could not get.” This is material propensities.

[24:44]“I shall be happy. My sons shall be happy. My community shall be happy.

[24:53]My nation shall be happy.” These are extended selfishness. Nobody’s thinking Krsna,

[25:01]how Krsna will be happy. Everyone is thinking in his own terms: “How I shall be happy,

[25:08]how my children shall be happy, my community shall be happy, my society shall be happy, my natio…”

[25:14]This is the struggle for existence. Everywhere you’ll find it. This is material existence.

[25:20]Nobody’s thinking how Krsna will be happy.

[25:25]Therefore this Krsna consciousness is very sublime. Try to understand from Bhagavatam,

[25:34]Bhagavad-gita. And hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam [Cc. Madhya 19.170],

[25:40]and try to engage your senses for the service of the master of the senses. Then you’ll be happy.

[25:47]Thank you very much. (end)