Living Outside The Temple — New York City, 1972
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Prabhupada, you’ve said in past lecture that for one who wants to take up ‘bhakti,’
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the work that you’re engaged in is not stopped.
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This has been a source of confusion for myself and maybe other people.
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Could you sort of delineate what is meant by that?
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No, ‘Bhakti,“ that’s what we are defining…Definition of ‘bhakti’ means:
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[“Devotional service should be devoid of material motivation”]
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That is ‘bhakti.’ Try to understand what is ‘bhakti.’ You are following me? Now you come sit.
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You come forward. Try to understand what is ‘bhakti.’
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‘Bhakti’ means, we have no other desire than to satisfy Krishna. That is ‘bhakti.’
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Just like Arjuna. Arjuna satisfied Krishna by fighting. And he became a pure devotee.
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On the battlefield, Arjuna was hesitating. “What is the use of killing my own men?
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My family men, my brothers, my nephews, my grandfathers, all on the other side.”
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And you have to fight with them. Fight with them and to kill them. So he was hesitating.
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He was a warrior, very great warrior, he knew, “When I fight I shall kill them.
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Although they have come to fight with me, they do not know. But I know.
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They are my men. So why shall I fight with them? Let them enjoy. I don’t want…”
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That was [his] confused feeling. But after understanding Bhagavad Gita,
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when he came to the understanding that it is his duty to satisfy Krishna,
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so he sacrificed his own conviction that he would not kill his men.
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He satisfied Krishna. By the same art, he was warrior.
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So he did not change his position.
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After reading Bhagavad Gita, he did not become a Vedantist or went away to Himalaya for yoga practice
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and give up the fight in battlefield. No. He did not change.
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But he changed his consciousness. That is ‘bhakti.’
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At the present moment our consciousness is that we are working for our own sense gratification.
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When this consciousness will be changed, that we have to work for satisfying Krishna,
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then our lives will be complete. You haven’t got to change your work or position.
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But when you understand that you have to work, not for your personal sense gratification,
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but for satisfaction of Krishna, that is Krishna Consciousness.
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So there is no question of changing your position. Changing your consciousness, that is the question.
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Can I ask another question?
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First of all, is this clear?
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This is very clear.
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‘Bhakta’ does not mean that you have to change everything. No. He hasn’t go to change.
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Simply he has to change his consciousness. This is ‘bhakti.’
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Change his consciousness in favor of Krishna. How I am acting now, I would like this, to do.
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This is our preoccupation. I’d like. I’d like to eat like this. I’d like to sleep like this.
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So present material position means: “My like.” And spiritual position means: “Krishna’s liking.”
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That’s all. How you’re doing, you think Krishna has liked?
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Material position means “I simply want to satisfy my likes.”
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Therefore, Krishna Consciousness means to change this mentality.
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My like. But to accept the principle of satisfying Krishna.
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So ‘bhakti’ means to act according to Krishna’s likes. Is it clear?
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It does not mean change of place, change of occupation. Change of mentality. That’s ‘bhakti.’
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Prabhupada, what if you’re engaged in some occupation that Krishna does not like?
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That you have to learn from Krishna’s representative. What He likes, what He does not like.
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And we should accordingly, give it up immediately?
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Therefore you have to accept spiritual master.
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If the spiritual master is pleased, then you know Krishna is pleased.
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If spiritual master is displeased, then you know, that Krishna is displeased.
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You cannot be in contact with Krishna at the present moment.
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In the beginning therefore you require the help of Krishna’s representative.
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To learn whether Krishna is pleased or Krishna is not pleased. But your business is to please Krishna.
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I’m not living in a temple. I’m working and I’m married. So what should my activities be like?
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You should make your home a temple. What is the difference between temple and home?
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This is a temple. The next house is a house.
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This is also made of brick and stone. That is also made of Brick and stone.
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But it is called temple, because here the business is Krishna.
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And that is called house, because there is no Krishna business.
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So if you make your house Krishna business, then that is also temple.
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You do the same thing has the members here are doing in you apartment.
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In you house, with your wife and children.
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You work independently, spend independently, but do it for Krishna. Then you house is temple.
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That we want. Here, the temple means, we are simply giving example how to live.
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So this example can be followed everywhere. Every house can be turned into a temple.
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Here, everything is Krishna centered.
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Similarly, if in your home you make Krishna center, not you center, then your home is also temple.
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Srila Prabhupada, I understand Krishna to be the Supreme Controller over all activities that happen in this material world.
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So how can Krishna allow such slaughter and other such “maya’s” [illusory] activities to take place under His control?
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Krishna does not allows animal slaughter and such things.
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Krishna says that, “I am the Father of every living entity.” Just like father. He has got ten sons.
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Some of them are like animals. But those who are advanced in knowledge,
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if such sons request the father that, “My other brothers are useless. Let us kill them and eat!”
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Will the father agree? Will the father say, “Yes. My…These sons are useless. You kill them and eat.”
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Will the father say? So Krishna has no sanction for animal killing.
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We are doing, violating the laws of Krishna.
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Therefore we are becoming entangled in sinful activities. We are doing. Krishna does not sanction.
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Krishna says, “Ahimsa…[non-violence].” These are the qualities to be developed.
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You cannot be violent. You cannot break anything. This is violation of God’s law.
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Just like in the Bible it is stated: “Thou shalt not kill!”
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So those who are killing, they are violating the laws of God, and become, I mean to say,
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liable to be punished. Criminals. So Krishna doesn’t…The government does not say that
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you kill your fellow. If you kill, then you will be hanged. Government says this.
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But when you kill your fellow man, it is your responsibility. It is not the government’s responsibility.
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Similarly, when you kill another fellow living being that is your responsibility.
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It is not Krishna’s responsibility.
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Prabhupada, I’ve heard different procedures for acquiring remaining Krishna conscious.
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What is the procedure now? Has it been changed?
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Our procedure is we are asking everybody to chant Hare Krishna Mantra.
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That simple thing will help you in every respect. Chant Hare Krishna.
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Then gradually, you will be enlightened. No other recipe. And you’ll do it yourself.
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Make association with devotees. Chant Hare Krishna. This is our procedure.
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In your books, you’ve explained that within the “Kali-yuga” age.
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Is “Kali-yuga” age coming to a close now?
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No. It will continue for another 427 thousands of years.
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The age of Kali-yuga is 432 thousands of years. Out of that, we have passed only five thousand years.
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The balance is 427 thousands of years. And it will become…Condition of society, world, will be worse.
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Not better, but worse. In the last leg of Kali-yuga, there will be no food grains, no milk, no fruits…
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A very horrible time. People will kill their own children and eat, just like animals.
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So the last stage of Kali-yuga will be like hell. So before coming to that stage,
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better to take Krishna Consciousness and go back to Krishna. That is our philosophy.
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Don’t…Foolish to wait for the worst thing. The worst things are already happening.
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It will be still more worse. Instead of waiting up to that time, better, be perfect by chanting Hare Krishna,
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and go back home, back to Godhead. That is our philosophy. Yes.
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As a devotee now who’s in the temple, is it good consciousness for me to think that Krishna
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will be presenting me many opportunities to serve, but I would prefer to do a particular thing
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that I like best, rather than consulting the authorities as to what should be done?
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Yes. But we have to wait to see the fruits.
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What should be done?
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Other than that, we are practically doing.
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You do accept, yes… We’re talking of Krishna, from so many books. We’re thinking of Krishna.
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We’re chanting of Krishna. We’re eating Krishna’s Prasad.
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Our whole day and night is engaged in Krishna’s business. This is devotee.
