Prabhupada in New Dwarka

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When there’s a decline in religion I descend.

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Or My devotee I may send.

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He’s the kind and gentle soul who’s heart is never cold,

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So peaceful and poetic with a message true and bold.

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He’s never seeking praise, so silent and so grave,

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and his transcendental love is the magic in his ways.

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And when I see his love I know I’ve got a long, long way to go.

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When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside?

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He’s always meek and mild, with a warm and friendly smile.

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So simple in his living, singing all the while.

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He sings out Krsna’s name, His glory and His fame.

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To serve his Lord and master in pleasure or in pain.

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And when I see his love I know I’ve got a long, long way to go.

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When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside?

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And when I see his love I know I’ve got a long, long way to go.

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When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside?

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You’ll find no lust and greed in a heart that’s pure and free.

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He’s a lover of the Lord and his life is ecstasy.

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He only dies to live and living tries to give

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the happiness that’s found in the sound of Krsna’s name.

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And when I see his love I know I’ve got a long, long way to go.

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When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside?

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O merciful Prabhupada, your eyes they gaze

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Taking heard-hearted souls and making them pure.

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You’re mace is your mercy, soothing and warm

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Your love is a guard from maya’s dark storm.

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Your heart it contains, the Lord’s loving grace.

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The smile you partake of, face to face.

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You give us all hope, as the ship was going down.

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With you as the Captain we surely won’t drown.

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Every town and village will sing Krsna’s name.

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Bringing forth the prophecy that Lord Caitanya proclaimed.

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Param guru gave books to cure me of diseases that come with this age.

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Goloka, full of spiritual pleasure, he reveals on every page.

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My dear grandfather spiritual master, unto you I most humbly pray

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That this serpant-like non-devote in the dust of your feet will stay.

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Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the source of all the be.

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The embodiment of bliss, the destination of the pure devotee.

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He’s the all-pervading truth, the eternally existing youth.

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And He comes to take you home, yes He comes to take you home.

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Of the splendid, He is splendor, He is victory and adventure.

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He is the good quality in all righteous men.

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Of creation He is beginning, middle and end.

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Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

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Of the senses He is the mind, among men He is the monarch.

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Of subduers, He is time.

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Of secrets, He is silence and He comes to end the violence that terrifies the Earth.

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Yes He’s come and taken birth.

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In the sound of His holy name, the Lord and His name are the same.

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That’s the nature of the absolute. And He comes to give His truth.

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As He plays upon His flute.

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We simply follow the predecessor’s instruction, that’s all.

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Our movement is very easy because we haven’t got to manufacture something.

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We simply repeat the words and the instruction given by the predecessor.

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Krishna instructed Brahma, Brahma instructed Narada, Narada instructed

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Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva instructed Madhvacarya, and in this way…

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…then Madhavendra Puri, Isvara Puri, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, then the Six Gosvamis,

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then Srinivasa Acarya, Kaviraja Gosvami, Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha Cakravarti,

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Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta

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Sarasvati, and then we are doing the same thing. There is no difference.

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That is the specific procedure of the Krsna consciousness movement.

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You are singing daily,

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guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ar na koriho mane asa.

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Very simple thing.

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We are receiving the transcendental knowledge through guru-parampara succession.

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So we have to simply take instruction from guru,

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and if we execute that to our heart and soul, that is success.

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That is practical.

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I have no personal qualification, but I simply tried to satisfy my guru. That’s all.

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My Guru Maharaja asked me that “If you get some money, you print books.”

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So there was a private meeting, talking, some of my important Godbrothers also there.

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It was in Radha-kunda.

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So Guru Maharaja was speaking to me that,

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“Since we have got this Bagh Bazaar marble temple, there has been so many dissensions,

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and everyone thinking who will occupy this room or that room, that room.

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I wish, therefore, to sell this temple and the marble and print some book.”

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Yes.

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So I took up this from his mouth, that he is very fond of books.

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And he told me personally that “If you get some money, print books.”

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Therefore I am stressing on this point:

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“Where is book? Where is book? Where is book?” So kindly help me.

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This is my request. Print as many books in as many languages

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and distribute throughout the whole world.

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Then Krsna consciousness movement will automatically increase.

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Now the educated learned scholars, they are appreciating our movement

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by reading books, by taking practical result.

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Dr. Stillson Judah, he has written one book, perhaps you know,

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“Hare Krishna and Counterculture”, a very nice book about our movement,

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and he is giving importance.

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He has admitted that “Swamiji, you have done wonderful thing, service to the humanity.”

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A man must have life to be a preacher.

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A dead man can not preach.

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You must preach Lord Caitanya’s message all throughout the world.

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And if you get money, print books. See love for Krishna unfurl.

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They are making propaganda that “These American devotees, they are CIA.”

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This propaganda is very strong in India

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Making the people against these American boys who are preaching.

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You give him one book, that Scientific Basis of…

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Yes, you can give him one book. You read it.

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Dr. Gerson has promised that he will read every single one of your books

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before he writes his book. He’s very serious.

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That is very kind of you. We have got about fifty books.

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He knows.

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And it is increasing.

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Perhaps in the next two months we shall increase another seventeen books.

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There are seventeen books pending to be published.

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Srila Prabhupada, what these tests will show is that when a person came first he was

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doing some drugs or some nonsense, and now that he’s taken to Krsna consciousness,

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he has become so much more of a healthy and wholesome person.

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That is the test. That is the real test.

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How we got so many devotees from the hippie group?

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So how they have given up all their bad habits. This is the real test.

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The function of his testing is to show that, that that change takes place

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in a way that other scientists will accept it. That is his purpose.

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Oh, that’s nice. That is already admitted by educated class.

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Therefore they are becoming attracted.

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…I would like to show them the path, so that they won’t be cheated any longer.

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Provided you know the path.

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I am trying to learn.

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So first of all learn it, otherwise you will be cheating.

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If you do not know the art, and if you want to do some benefit

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…to the others, then that is cheating.

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Suppose a physician, he does not know what is the medical science.

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And if he wants to become a physician, that is cheating.

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Quack!

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I hope through the study that I’m doing with the devotees,

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and the book that comes out of it that it will help them

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not be cheated any longer and show them the right way.

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Yes.

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He is advising his patients that they should chant

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Hare Krsna and come to the temple.

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Then he is very nice. Then you are friend.

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Another thing I would like to do is go to Gurukula and test the children

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and show what NBC did was very false and unfair.

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On television they did a very bad story on Gurukula.

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Yes, they’re, they cheater. He wants to cheat and get some money.

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That’s all. Because the whole so-called human society is combination of

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cheater and cheated. So anyone who is acting without Krsna consciousness,

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he is a cheater.

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And anyone who is thinking himself advanced without Krsna consciousness,

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he is cheated. This is the basic principle.

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They also say that no one can every be pure…

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That everyone is doomed to be a sinner.

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Well that is atmavan manyate jagat.

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That is the conditioned soul’s qualification.

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That if he is a fool, he thinks others fools.

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Everyone, he thinks he is like me.

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That is nature.

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Atmavan manyate jagat.

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Everyone thinks others like himself.

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If he is a fool, he thinks all are.

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So these things are no arguments.

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Nobody has seen God, how do you take these statistics?

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Can you say like that, any statistics.

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That nobody has…

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Maybe you may not have seen him, the one who has seen God.

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That is quite possible because you have not scrutinizingly studied all the men of the world.

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Then how you can say nobody has seen Him?

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You have not seen him, the man who has seen Him.

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He will not admit his fault.

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He will accuse others, nobody has seen God.

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Why? You may not have seen, but why you say nobody has seen?

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You have not seen that person who has seen God.

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Therefore you say like that.

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Those people who wrote the bible never… did not see God.

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That is… when God is canvassing, “Here I am, Krishna.” They will not see it.

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And still the accuse, “Nobody has seen.”

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O Lord the Sun’s effulgence hides your face.

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Your blissful form lies far beyond my eyes.

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And now your wonders call my heart’s embrace.

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As dawn displays your beauty in the sky.

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The rainbow shows the colors of your dress.

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The movements of the Moon reflect your mind.

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Your smiling is the cause of happiness.

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And love exists because you are so kind.

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O Govinda within my heart celestial heardsmen lotus-eyed work.

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Your precious gift of love impart.

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O you who stand behind the Sun.

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You’re the one, you’re the one in my heart, in my heart.

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The rolling rivers flow forth from your veins.

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The clouds that fill the sky come from your hair.

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The seeds of life are watered by your rain.

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And from your breathing blows the mighty air.

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Our Lord you are the source of all I see.

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Your movements are the passing days of time.

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You are the resting place of all the be.

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Love exists because you are so kind.

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O Govinda within my heart celestial heardsmen lotus-eyed work.

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Your precious gift of love impart.

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O you who stand behind the Sun.

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You’re the one, you’re the one in my heart, in my heart.

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O Govinda within my heart celestial heardsmen lotus-eyed work.

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Your precious gift of love impart.

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O you who stand behind the Sun.

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You’re the one, you’re the one.

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Just try.

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May I try the beat?

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Yes, give him.

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Ah, ah, it is coming.

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It’s too fast… no.

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You can try. Give him, he can try.

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Srila Prabhupada… Prabhupada, on our tape recorder here that we have,

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we can make it so you can play nicely and then later on at…

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at our own time, we can play the mrdunga and karatals nicely.

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This way, we won’t waste any of your time.

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Do you think that’s a good idea?

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See, we can… after you are gone at our own time, we can play nicely.

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Do you think that is a good idea or not?

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I do not know.

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I am not an expert.

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Well if we can’t get someone to play drum…

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We would like to do that.

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We would like to do it like that Prabhupada.

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Then do that.

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No, if we could get the people to play now, that would be the best.

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My father wanted me to become like this.

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Know everything, what is going on.

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He never wanted me to be a worldly man, earning money.

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He never wanted.

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There was some arrangement for my going to England

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After my college education, to become barrister.

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My father refused. “No, my son is not going to be a mleccha.”

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As the air carries different flavors of the physical elements.

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Like the flavor of some flower or the aromatic dust of the flower and on account of

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different dust, the air scents in different flavors or accepts different color.

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Similarly everyone has got a certain type of desire

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so according to his desire the Lord appears to Him

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although such appearance, such form is not His original form.

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So the demigods are actually not the original form of the Lord,

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but they are presented to different persons according to their desires.

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So Daksa, he wants to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna.

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He is not interested with the demigods.

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Purport

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The impersonalists, they imagine the form of the Lord as different demigods.

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Just like the Mayvadis, they worship pancopasana, five demigods.

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Actually they do not believe in the form of the Lord.

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But for the facility of the worshipper they think one may imagine some form.

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Generally they imagine the form of Visnu, the form of Shiva, the form of Ganesh.

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The form of Durga and the form of Sun-God.

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This is called pancopasana.

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But Daksa wanted to worship not that imaginary form,

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but the supreme form of the Lord, Krsna.

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This payment, Book Trust has paid to me but that is my money, not your money.

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I am paying you. It has been simply sent through you, transferred.

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But actually Book Trust is not paying to me.

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No.

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So under the circumstances, what is the account?

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You are debiting that pay to A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami.

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I have written it as a transfer because your Divine Grace told me

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you were going to give me these certified checks.

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I could do it another way.

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If you do not want to deposit the checks with us I will write it as a donation

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to some project in India. Whatever the money will be used for.

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I can simply make it a donation.

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Donation? That’s all right. But you are not donating, you are taking payment.

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Only if you want.

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No…

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You give me a statement. If not many months, at least in this month.

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What is the receipt and how it is spent and what is the balance.

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For this account in India.

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No, no. Every month you will give me a statement.

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Of BBT?

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Yes. So much received, so much spent.

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O yes. I can do that. Every month.

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Every month.

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No problem. I am doing that already

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and sending a full report to Bhagavan and Hansadutta each month.

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So you can give me one copy.

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Yes. I never did before because I didn’t want to disturb you with the details.

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No… details.

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Give me this.

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So I’ll have to also keep a record, so you can for transfer receive the check.

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Yes.

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Is that alright?

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Yes.

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I am giving in favor of BBT and you…

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We are acting like your bank.

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Yes. That’s right. That is nice.

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I have got standing order of the American Embassy.

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18 copies of each book as soon as it is published.

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The same standing order.

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But these people are not doing their job.

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In India management is very…

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So for the time being the money will not be used for the construction in Mayapur.

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It will be used to print books.

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Mayapur, they have already taken one and a half lakhs from me.

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Now Gopal Krsna in India requested that BBT give him a loan of $160,000

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Where?

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In India, during the Mayapur festival he requested a loan from US BBT for $160,000.

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Which would be used to construct the second residence building.

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How he will pay back?

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His plan was that the American temples would purchase rooms

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and over a period of four or five years they would pay that money back.

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So is that still approved by your Divine Grace?

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Yes. I have no objection.

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The only think is we will have to delay the loan because

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for the next three months all our money will be used to print these seventeen books.

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First of all books, then the loan.

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We cannot hold up printing. That is not possible.

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This you must always keep in view.

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We are not going to… The surplus money we are going to pay.

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Not that at the cost of stopping printing.

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You must always keep it…

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When you require money for printing,

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there is no question of loan for temple building. This should be our…

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That is our motto. Krishna is Sun.

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So when Krishna Sun is there all these glowworm like men will be finished.

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Keep this sun always shining. Then these glowworms will be finished.

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One, that Sikh… Bhajan? What is that?

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Yogi Bhajan.

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Aha. He came to invite me.

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Really? In Hawaii? …Ah, yes.

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He came to our temple a few nights ago also for arotik.

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He has a big following.

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So he came to invite me… I indirectly refused.

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So if you are theologicians, then you must know what is God and abide by His order.

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What do you think, Dr. Judah? …Pardon?

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What do you think this proposition?

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Yes, well, I think you’re quite right. I think that it is…

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Certainly, in our day and age many of us don’t really know God.

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Then he is not theologician. He is theosophist.

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We know about God, but we do not know God. I would agree.

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Then that is theosophist. Theosophists, they are thinking

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There is something superior. But who is that superior, they are searching out.

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The same thing: a boy, he knows, “I have a father,” but “Who is my father?

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That I do not know.” Oh, that, you have to ask your mother. That’s all.“

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Alone he cannot understand.

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So our proposition is that if you do not know God and here is God, Krsna,

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why don’t you accept Him?

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You do not know first of all.

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And if I present, “Here is God,” then why don’t you accept?

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What is the answer?

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We are presenting God, “Here is God.”

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I suppose one of the difficulties for certainly many in the older generation

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is that we follow certain patterns of life and the… It is difficult to change.

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This is the great problem.

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Then you are not serious about God. Then you are not serious.

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Therefore Krsna said, sarva-dharman parityaja mam ekam saranam:

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“You have to give up.”

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That’s right.

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Because if you are not prepared to give up, then you cannot accept God.

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I think you’re being a little unfair to Dr. Crossley.

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I think what you say is true, that the most important thing we can do

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is to seek and know God, but I don’t think it’s right to say that

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it’s a bad thing to study how other people or how man has…

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No, I don’t say bad thing.

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I say if you are serious about God, now, here is God.

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That’s what a university in part is for,

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to study about how people have thought on different matters.

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No, that’s all right. I have already said. If you are seeking after something,

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if you get that something, why don’t you accept it?

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Do you believe that Christ said that Krsna was his father?

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The name may be different. Just like in our country we say this flower something.

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You say something, something. But the subject matter must be the same.

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Name is not… You can say in a different way, as you understand.

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But God is one. God cannot be two. You may give Him different names.

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That is different thing. But God is one. God cannot be two.

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