## "Smash and Boil with Milk" August 3, 1976, Paris - Room Conversation
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**Prabhupāda:** ...any expert in your country who can fry food grains in hot sand.
**Bhagavān:** Like they make puffed rice, I think, like that. I don't think so. They do it by machine.
**Prabhupāda:** Puffed rice? How? What is that machine?
**Bhagavān:** When they make a thatcher, they use some kind of machine.
**Prabhupāda:** But we can do it very easily. **Sand should be very hot. You can make hot sand, it is not difficult. Any fire. And then take the grains in some, another pot, and put the hot sands under it and then agitate. And it will puff-puff-puff-puff-puff-puff, they'll be finished.**
**Bhagavān:** Put the hot sand where?
**Prabhupāda:** Sand is being heated in fire, so you put the grains in another pot and put the hot sand there.
**Hari-śauri:** Underneath the pot?
**Prabhupāda:** Why underneath? I said another pot. You are so dull brain. **Here is hot sand. I bring in another pot, the grains, and the hot sand I pour on it.**
**Hari-śauri:** Pour on it, on top of the grains. Oh.
**Prabhupāda:** Yes. **And then agitate and then put the whole thing on a mesh and make it like this, again put the hot sand there. Is it clear? Then you get the puffed-up grains. That is very good food.**
**Hari-śauri:** Devotees make popcorn.
**Bhagavān:** That's another thing.
**Prabhupāda:** **Popcorn, they fry it in *ghee*, hot *ghee*.**
**Hari-śauri:** Not much though, just a little.
**Prabhupāda:** **No, I've seen it. They do it. But that is not very digestive. If you make this sand, hot sand...**
**Bhagavān:** It's light.
**Prabhupāda:** **Very light. In the morning you can give them this puffed grains, then fruits and milk, very good breakfast. I mean to say all self-dependent.** Yes. We should save time, as much for this purpose, for chanting, discussing *grantha *[scripture]. Not for any personal so-called comforts. **We can sit down anywhere on the grass here, and whatever available we make our food. This is the idea. Life will be sublime.** *Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī mām*. [From *Bg.* [[bg/9/34|9.34]]: "Engage your mind always in thinking of Me, become My devotee, offer obeisances to Me and worship Me. Being completely absorbed in Me, surely you will come to Me.] **That is real business...**
**My mother used to make puffed rice at home. So there is special rice available for making puffed rice.** Either you can prepare at home or you can purchase in the market, special rice. So she was preparing nice puffed rice, very, very nice. In a sand pot. My mother was always engaged in making some food preparation. Some pickle, some chutney, and this puffed rice, or something else, something else, something else. Besides cooking for the family, she was being assisted by my sisters. Always palatable foodstuff. So many guests were there, and if son-in-law would come, they would specially prepare food for him. **To receive guests, give them nice food to eat, prepare nice food for the family, this is the Indian pleasure. **They are not very much, nowadays, for upkeep of the home, very... **That, in their own way, they keep it very nicely. Every utensils, very cleansed, they are kept ready for use, some cloth. If you go in a poor man's home, but you'll find everything very neat and clean.** Ask these *gṛhasthas* to keep their home very neat and clean. Are they keeping?
**Bhagavān:** Yes.
**Prabhupāda:** What are the general program for eating?
**Bhagavān:** For eating? Every morning everyone has a nice glass of yogurt, chickpeas and apple, orange and banana.
**Prabhupāda:** Chickpeas fried?
**Bhagavān:** Boiled, chick peas. And apple, orange and banana. And in the afternoon they have rice, *dāl*, *chapāti*, and salad, and in the evening they have a glass of milk and a little bread.
**Prabhupāda:** That's nice.
**Bhagavān:** This, in July, this is normal weather now, in August and July. But generally in July it has some rain.
**Prabhupāda:** This year...
**Bhagavān:** Yes. And it was the hottest weather in a hundred years.
**Prabhupāda:** Now.
**Bhagavān:** It was, in July. Extremely hot. And actually our well was one of the only ones functioning in the whole area, and we were watering the crops and everything. Our corn is very nice, very high, and our tomatoes are very good. The barley harvest was five tons.
**Prabhupāda:** Five times more.
**Bhagavān:** Five tons of barley we got, from our harvest. It was very nice.
**Prabhupāda:** Oh.
**Bhagavān:** **Did you get some barley flour?**
**Prabhupāda:** I don't have any.
**Hari-śauri:** (laughs) We can't make, it's not finely ground enough. We can't make it into chapātis. It's just too coarse.
**Prabhupāda: You could do one thing. You just smash that and boil with milk.**
**Hari-śauri:** You mean a mortar and pestle?
**Prabhupāda:** **Smash and boil with milk. Don't put sugar. Then I shall put sugar according to my taste.**
**Hari-śauri:** You want that this evening?
**Prabhupāda:** No.
**Hari-śauri:** No. Tomorrow morning.
**Bhagavān:** We are the only farm in the whole area that is growing chick peas. The man said he did not think they can grow. But we have a whole field of chick peas. They'll be coming up ripe for harvest in about three weeks.
**Prabhupāda:** **Chick peas very nutritious. If you simply boil soft, oh, it is very nutritious.** A little, so much, is as good as full meal.
Protection of Women, Paris, August 3, 1976: Room Conversation with French Commander