# November 9 *Lectures from this day: 10 recordings* --- **[[spoken/681109bs.la|Śrī Brahma-saṁhitā, Lecture — November 9, 1968, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** *Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi. Govindam,* Lord Kṛṣṇa; *ādi-puruṣa,* the original person. In the *Vedānta-sūtra* it is said that Brahman... **Athāto brahma-jijñāsā. What is Brahman? In this human form of life this is the business, to understand what is Brahman. Therefore Parīkṣit Mahārāja says [break], Question and answer. Everywhere life means questions and answers. So those who are not interested or do not know what is the aim of life, they have got questions and answers only for sense gratification. That's all. They have no more any questions or answers. Whole field of questioning and answering is sense gratification. That's all. --- **[[spoken/721109nd.vrn|The Nectar of Devotion — November 9, 1972, Vṛndāvana]]** **Pradyumna:** [reading:] "Furthermore, a person engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, acting in devotional service, can develop all the good qualities that are generally found in the demigods." Oh. **Pradyumna:** " 'Happiness In Kṛṣṇa Consciousness.' Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī has analyzed the different sources of happiness. He has divided happiness into three categories, which are 1) happiness derived from material enjoyment, 2) happiness derived by identifying oneself with the Supreme Brahman, and 3) happiness derived from Kṛṣṇa consciousness. "In the *Tantra-śāstra,* Lord Śiva speaks to his wife, Satī, in this way: 'My dear wife, a person who has surrendered himself to the lotus feet of Govinda and who has thus developed pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness can be very easily awarded all the perfections desired by the impersonalists; and beyond this, he can enjoy the happiness achieved by the pure devotees.' --- **[[spoken/721109sb.vrn|SB 1.2.30 — November 9, 1972, Vṛndāvana]]** *saḥ*—that; *eva*—certainly; *idam*—this; *sasarja*—created; *agre*—before; *bhagavān*—Personality of Godhead; *ātma-māyayā*—by His personal potency; *sat*—the cause; *asat*—the effect; *rūpayā*—by forms; *ca*—and; *asau*—the same Lord; *guṇa-maya*—in the modes of material nature; *aguṇaḥ*—transcendental; *vibhuḥ*—the Absolute. **Translation:** "In the beginning of the material creation, the Absolute Lord, in His own transcendental position, created the energies of cause and effect by His own internal energy." --- **[[spoken/741109sb.bom|SB 3.25.9 — November 9, 1974, Bombay]]** **Nitāi:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [**Prabhupāda and **devotees repeat] [leads chanting of verse, etc.] "You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the origin and the Supreme Lord of all living entities. You have arisen to disseminate the rays of the sun in order to dissipate the darkness of ignorance of the universe." --- **[[spoken/751109cc.bom|Cc. Madhya 20.100-108 — November 9, 1975, Bombay]]** So, last Sunday we were discussing about Sanātana Gosvāmī's meeting with Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Sanātana Gosvāmī was the finance minister of Nawab Hussain Shah, the then Pathan government of Bengal. So he resigned his office. The Nawab was reluctant to give him release. He was arrested, but somehow or other he released himself by bribing the superintendent of jail, and he met Caitanya Mahāprabhu at Benares, or Vārāṇasī. And for two months He gave him instruction how to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So approaching the *guru,* Sanātana Gosvāmī, his submission was that "People in general, they talk of me as very learned scholar." He was very good scholar in Sanskrit, in Arabic and Persian language, because he was minister, very responsible post. So... And he was born in *brāhmaṇa* family, *Sārasvata brāhmaṇa* family. So naturally he was supposed to be very learned scholar, *paṇḍita, brāhmaṇa-paṇḍita.* Still we address a *brāhmaṇa* as *paṇḍitjī.* Never we address a *brāhmaṇa* as *mūrkhajī.* So that is the etiquette. *Brāhmaṇa* means he must be very learned scholar and a very advanced devotee. *Brāhmaṇa-paṇḍita, brāhmaṇa* Vaiṣṇava. These are the qualification of *brāhmaṇa.* So naturally he was addressed as *paṇḍitjī,* but he denied to accept that he is actually *paṇḍita.* --- **[[spoken/761109sb.vrn|SB 5.5.21-22 — November 9, 1976, Vṛndāvana]]** **Pradyumna:** Translation: "Of the two energies manifest, spirit and dull matter, beings possessing living force—that is vegetables, grass, trees and plants—are superior to dull matter, or stone, earth, etc. Superior to nonmoving plants and vegetables are worms and snakes, which can move. Superior to worms and snakes are animals that have developed intelligence. Superior to animals are human beings, and superior to human beings are ghosts, because they have no material bodies. Superior to ghosts are the Gandharvas, and superior to them are the Siddhas. Superior to the Siddhas are the Kinnaras, and superior to them are the *asuras.* Superior to the *asuras* are the demigods, and of the demigods, Indra, the king of heaven, is supreme. Superior to Indra are the direct sons of Lord Brahmā, sons like King Dakṣa. And supreme among Brahmā's sons is Lord Śiva. Since Lord Śiva is the son of Lord Brahmā, Brahmā is considered superior; but Brahmā is also subordinate to Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because I am inclined to the *brāhmaṇas,* the *brāhmaṇas* are best of all." [break] --- **[[spoken/771109r1.vrn|Room Conversation — November 9, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** Śrīla Prabhupāda? So a letter came. One boy, he wrote me a letter. When I was going to go to China a while ago, before you told me not to, this boy was working with me. And his name is Jita-rati. So he went to China, and he's written a report. Should I read it to you? **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** "My dear Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Goswami and Dhṛṣṭadyumna Swami: Please accept my most humble obeisances unto your feet. All glories to our beloved spiritual master Śrīla Prabhupāda. May Lord Kṛṣṇa, if He so desires, please cure Śrīla Prabhupāda. I'm writing this letter as a brief report on the recent events as a result of my trip to Kwangchow, Canton, China. I arrived on October 16th. Business—attended the Trade Fair but signed no contracts as all the prices were far too high. Research on some items may result in future business. *Saṅkīrtana—*our real business: I gave two Chinese *Bhagavad-gītās* to the Chung Shan University, or Dr. Sun-yatsen University as it is called now, in Canton. They were accepted by the administration with assurance of being delivered to the appropriate departments. I inquired from the liaison office how to visit the university. They said it must be prearranged, but they did not know how. From past experience..." This boy had gone to China once before, Śrīla Prabhupāda. He's a Canadian. He says, "From past experience..." He's one of your disciples. "From past experience, because of limited time, I decided to just go, although warned not to. I walked past the guard's house at the gate of the university, hoping not to be seen. After I got forty to fifty yards, when a woman came running after me yelling in Chinese. I finally turned to her and said, 'No, it is all right,' and smiled, and I kept walking on. She retreated, by Kṛṣṇa's grace, and I went on to the first building, where I saw some books through the windows. As I approached the front door, the first person I met was a middle-aged woman who spoke good English. She was a biology teacher, and we discussed the life principle as she took me to the history department and then reception. There, with two other Chinese persons, we discussed Chinese politics, and I explained the natural social body, *varṇāśrama.*" He was discussing *varṇāśrama* with them. "However, as they began to understand how much sense it made, they said I had better talk to the people of the political philosophy but were unwilling to arrange it, and I was unable to also. They admitted to still having a class society in China, but the goal was to have no classes, with the means of production so arranged that everyone could have what they wanted. Such demons. They accept Marx, Lenin and Mao as absolute authority and plan to spread this perfect social system, as they call it, all over the world. I gave one *Gītā* to the main public library. They accepted when they found out that I was a Canadian and thanked me very much. --- **[[spoken/771109r2.vrn|Room Conversation — November 9, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** "...your letter with enclosures as on reverse. Kindly accept yourself and convey my humble obeisances to my ailing father, and Lord Kṛṣṇa will protect and we have nothing to worry about. 2] Without touching details right now, as desired by you, I beg to submit that a meaningful 'further discussion...' " Remember, I had mentioned to him that we could have a further discussion if we had any questions, "...that a meaningful 'further discussion' could be ensued between us on the subject of settlement upon receipt of a confirmatory letter from the bank concerned either to you or to me directly as to the scheme purported to have been devised by ISKCON. No discussion, perhaps you will agree, without bank's letter, will serve any purpose towards a settlement. If it is a fait accompli, I feel sure the bank's letter describing the arrangements in so many words might bear salutary effect on our further discussions as propounded by your good self." **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** That's one point about... Actually, I simply asked him for the name of his bank and the bank account, but he doesn't seem to want to give that at this point. Seems to have some other idea. Very legally worded letter. "3] Panchashil. I do not stay there, albeit my daily visits. Once I have read somewhere, not the copy sent by you, this draft conveyance, and this is a bunkum." He calls it a bunkum. Are you familiar with that word, Śrīla Prabhupāda? I think it means like a hoax or something. "The wordings are incoherent and contradictory. The assigners, promoters, are described as overlord. The lessers, superlord, and assignees, purchasers, have been reduced to a transient resident, if not fugitive debtor. In my opinion, causes are there for criminal prosecution against the promoters. Without capable and competent lawyers' help, this legal matter should not be handled. Until then, keep it in abeyance. Your all the papers as mentioned..." I sent him a copy of the scheme, Śrīla Prabhupāda, as well as a copy of the draft. He says, "All of your papers, as mentioned, are sent herewith back to you." He didn't choose to keep them. "While awaiting the bank's comments, I beg to remain respectfully yours, M. M. De." He says, "The enclosures are sent under ordinary post to avoid heavy postage in this cover." He decided to send them by a separate post because it would have been a few extra paisa. **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** If he gives us the bank name and the account of his, then by getting the first monthly installment, then automatically it's confirmed. --- **[[spoken/771109r3.vrn|Room Conversation — November 9, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Kavirāja:** [Transl. Today I read a *śloka*. *Mūkaṁ karoti vācālaṁ paṅguṁ laṅghayate girim,* [Śrī *Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Madhya* 17.80] Bhagatjī*:* [Transl. I don't know Śrīla Prabhupāda, I didn't see the temple, what he wants and what he doesn't want.] Bhagatjī*:* [Transl. I didn't see. I will go and see. What he wants, Śrīla Prabhupāda, and what is your order please tell us.] --- **[[spoken/771109r4.vrn|Room Conversation — November 9, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Kavirāja:** *[Transl. *Today did he pass stool?]*Bhakti-cāru: *[Transl. *Yes. Today he passed in the morning.]*Kavirāja: *[Transl. *He did in the moring. O.K. How much is that?]*Bhakti-cāru: *[Transl. *One hundred fifty.]* *[Kavirāja and Bhakticāru discusses]* **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** Stronger. Your pulse is stronger now, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Shastrijī says that your pulse is normal rate and stronger. I think the *kīrtana* is having a good effect, Śrīla Prabhupāda. **Kavirāja:** [Transl. *This is also a great medicine—the holy name of Kṛṣṇa.]**Prabhupāda:** [Transl. *Bhavauṣadhi—medicine to cure material disease.]**Kavirāja:** [Transl. *Yes. Mahārāja. Someone asked for some medicine, and the Doctor replied, *idaṁ śarīraṁ śata-sandhi-jarjaram pataty avaśyaṁ pariṇāma-peśalaṁ kim auṣadhaṁ pṛcchasi mūḍha durmate nirāmayaṁ kṛṣṇa-rasāyanaṁ piba* [*Mukunda Mālā Stotra*] This body is consist of hundreds of joints. It will definitely die one day and it is changing all the time. Therefore O fool, what medicine are you looking for? If you really want to be cured then drink the nectar of the holy name of Kṛṣṇa.] **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, Shastrijī was saying that when he gives someone medicine, he gives the medicine, and then because he's a doctor, he doesn't care, it may work or not work. But with you, he said he's become too much attached. He does not know why, but he's become very much attached, and now he's too much determined that his medicine must work. He can't feel indifferent when he treats you. --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1967/671109_rayarama.md|Letter to Rayarama, 1967]] - [[../../letters/1969/691109_bhagavan.md|Letter to Bhagavan, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1970/701109_tulsi.md|Letter to Tulsi, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/701109_vrindaban_candra.md|Letter to Vrindaban Candra, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1973/731109_dinesh_candra_sarkar.md|Letter to Dinesh Candra Sarkar, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1973/731109_vegavan.md|Letter to Vegavan, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1974/741109_jayatirtha.md|Letter to Jayatirtha, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_aksayananda.md|Letter to Aksayananda, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_bhurijana.md|Letter to Bhurijana, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_dhananjaya.md|Letter to Dhananjaya, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_ghanasyama.md|Letter to Ghanasyama, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_hayagriva.md|Letter to Hayagriva, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_jagadisa.md|Letter to Jagadisa, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_kapoorji.md|Letter to Kapoorji, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_karunasindhu.md|Letter to Karunasindhu, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_lokananda_ramesvarai.md|Letter to Lokananda Ramesvarai, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_rupanuga.md|Letter to Rupanuga, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_satsvarupa.md|Letter to Satsvarupa, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_sukadeva.md|Letter to Sukadeva, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_tripurari.md|Letter to Tripurari, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_trivikrama.md|Letter to Trivikrama, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_tusta_krsna.md|Letter to Tusta Krsna, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/751109_visvakarma.md|Letter to Visvakarma, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1976/761109_b.s._bodhayana_maharaja.md|Letter to B.S. Bodhayana Maharaja, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/761109_s.n._sharma.md|Letter to S.N. Sharma, 1976]]