# October 14 *Lectures from this day: 13 recordings* --- **[[spoken/681014bg.sea|Bg 2.20-25 — October 14, 1968, Seattle]]** **Viṣṇujana:** "He who thinks that the living entity is the slayer or that the entity is slain does not understand. One who is in knowledge knows that the self slays not nor is slain."* [[bg/2/19|[Bg. 2.19] ]] **Purport:** "When an embodied being is hurt by fatal weapons, it is to be known that the living entity within the body is not killed. The spirit soul is so small that it is impossible to kill him by any material weapon. Nor is the living entity killable in any case, because of his spiritual constitution. What is killed or is supposed to be killed is the body only. This, however, does not at all encourage killing of the body. The Vedic injunction is *mā hiṁsyāt sarvā bhūtāni* [[bg/9/4|[Bg. 9.4] ]]: --- **[[spoken/721014le.del|Lecture [Hindi] — October 14, 1972, Delhi]]** **Prabhupāda:** > oṁ ajñāna-timirāndhasya jñānāñjana-śalākayā > cakṣur unmīlitaṁ yena tasmai śrī-gurave namaḥ In the seventh Seventh Canto, fourteenth chapter of the *Śrīmad Bhāgavatam* King Yudhisṭhira is asking inquiring from Narada Muni. My dear sir, you have told us about the duties of *brahmacārīs*, *vānaprasthas* and *sannyasis* and what the process they need to follow to become liberated and go Back to Godhead. However, we are *mūḍha-dhīḥsmudhadhis*, and are particularly of weak intelligence. Why so? Because we consider this worldly life to be all in all, we don't think there is something beyond this. So, he questioned Narada Nārada muni like that. --- **[[spoken/721014r1.del|Room Conversation with Kenneth Keating — October 14, 1972, Delhi]]** **Prabhupāda:** Because, we are actually spirit soul we are not this body. But, our present civilization is going on, on the concept of this body. That I'm this body, and therefore I'm thinking I'm Indian, you are thinking you are American, somebody is thinking something else. This is our body. Just like I give you an example. Suppose you have got this striped coat. I cannot address you Mr. striped coat. [laughs] Similarly, but we are actually being addressed like that. We are identified with this body, and the body is considered as the dress, and the person who is dressed, that is within. Just like this child, this is a dress. Now, after some days this dress will be changed to another dress. After some time another dress, another dress. This body is dress, we should always [indistinct], but the person who is putting on the dress... Just like I can remember my childhood state, dress and condition, my youthhood condition. So many things I remember. --- **[[spoken/731014bg.bom|Bg 13.20 — October 14, 1973, Bombay]]** **Pradyumna:Translation:** "Material nature and the living entities should be understood to be beginningless. Their transformations in the modes of matter are products of material nature."* [[bg/13/20|[Bg. 13.20] ]] **Prabhupāda:** So there were six questions by Arjuna: *kṣetra, kṣetra-jña, jñānam, jñeyam, prakṛti, puruṣa.* Six questions. So Kṛṣṇa has already replied what is *kṣetra, kṣetra-jña,* and what is the process of knowledge and what is the object of knowledge. Now He is beginning to explain what is this material nature and what is these living entities. Material nature, *prakṛti,* is enjoyable. *Prakṛti* means enjoyable. And *puruṣa, puruṣa* means enjoyer. Just like in our present condition we accept the female as the fair sex, enjoyable. And we, male, we think we are enjoyer. By nature the females, they are by nature apt to dress attractively, and the *puruṣa* is attracted. So this *prakṛti* and *puruṣa.* Actually, none of us are *puruṣa.* This conception of *puruṣa,* enjoyer, that is there in so-called woman and so-called man. The man also wants to enjoy. Not only man; every living entity—cats, dogs, trees, aquatics, everyone. Because this material world means all the living entities, beginning from Lord Brahmā down to the smallest ant, they are seeking after enjoyment. *Puruṣa.* That is *puruṣa* spirit. One who is seeking for enjoyment is called *puruṣa.* --- **[[spoken/741014sb.may|SB 1.8.34 — October 14, 1974, Māyāpur]]** **Nitāi:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [devotees repeat] [leads chanting of verse, etc.] "Others say that the world, being overburdened like a boat at sea, is much aggrieved, and that Brahmā, who is Your son, prayed for You, and so You have appeared to diminish the trouble." --- **[[spoken/751014le.joh|Lecture — October 14, 1975, Johannesburg]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...so on account of exploitation by the superior energy, the living entity, the material energy becomes important. So the Vedic civilization is for fulfilling the mission of the spiritual energy. And the modern civilization is to become entangled in the activities of this material energy. Entangled..., I have used this word "entangled" because we are becoming entangled in this material energy by changing this body. Now I have got this human form of body, and according to my work I'll get next another body. That body is not guaranteed that I shall get human form of body. In the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is stated, *tathā dehāntara-prāptir* [[bg/2/13|[Bg. 2.13] ]]: "You'll get another body." Just like I am old man. I shall die, or I shall change body. Death means I will change the body. Just like I have changed my body many times. When I was in the womb of my mother the first day after the sex, my body was just like a pea. These are..., these information are there in the Vedic literature. The secretion from the father and mother combine together, they become emulsified, and it forms a substance like a pea. Within that pea, the living spirit soul is there. Then it develops. The pea develops. Then there becomes holes, nine holes. We have got nine holes: this nostril, the ear, mouth, the eyes, the genital, the rectum, the navel. We have got nine holes. These nine holes develop. In this way, the body is formed. In seven months' time, the body gets consciousness back. Before that it is in the deep sleeping state. Then after seven months, it is in dreaming state. At that time, it feels inconvenience. To live in the midst of urine, stool, and worms biting so many inconvenience within the womb of the mother. At that time, if he is little pious, he prays to God, "God, give me relief from this state of life. This time I shall engage my time only for Your service, how to realize You." But as soon as he comes out, he forgets everything. So it is the duty of the father and mother to give him remembrance of these things. Unfortunately, at the present moment especially, the father, mother is also not enlightened. So he is kept in darkness. Then he is given education how to exploit these material resources. That is immediate, very profitable. In this way, we are kept into darkness in the whole life. Then at the time of my death again, as I remember my circumstances, --- **[[spoken/751014r1.joh|Room Conversation — October 14, 1975, Johannesburg]]** **Prabhupāda:** Nothing happens accidentally. According to Vedic literature, there is no such word as "accident." The word is *adṛṣṭa:* [the unseen destiny] there is cause; I cannot see it. *Adṛṣṭa.* It is not in my vision, but there is cause. There is no question of accident. **Prabhupāda:** There is *karma,* cause, but I cannot ascertain. To me the cause is invisible. Therefore we take *adṛṣṭa.* But there is cause. **Harikeśa:** They always reason that because sometimes somebody is born like that, that sometimes somebody could be born from an ape, like a man. --- **[[spoken/751014sb.joh|SB 1.7.2-4 — October 14, 1975, Johannesburg]]** **Prabhupāda:** So I shall try to speak on some of the preliminary important *ślokas* from *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,* how *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam* was compiled by Vyāsadeva under the instruction of Śrī Nārada Muni. So the description was given by Sūta Gosvāmī in a very big meeting at Naimiṣāraṇya, thousands of years ago, and the Sūta Gosvāmī is describing how *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam* was compiled. --- **[[spoken/761014ad.cha|Address [Hindi] — October 14, 1976, Chandigarh]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead has personally appered as Caitanya Mahāprabhu. It is recommended in the *śāstra* that *kalau dhari-kīrtanāt* [[sb/12/3/52|[SB. 12.3.52] ]] This is the scriptural injunction. The form of the Supreme Lord in Kali-yuga is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He is present before you. Simply by performing *Hari-kirtana*, just like these people have demonstrated it by following the footsteps of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has displayed us and we follow Him. We belong to Caitanya *sampradāya*. People have become so foolish in *Kali-yuga* as I have already said earlier, that they don't know religious principles or anything. Therefore to revive them this is the only alternative. --- **[[spoken/761014mw.cha|Morning Walk — October 14, 1976, Chandigarh]]** **Prabhupāda:** That is special advantage of this age. People are very much fallen from spiritual standard, and to fall down from the spiritual standard means to spoil the humanity. There is no education on this point. That is Vedic culture. Most of them, they do not believe that there is soul, spirit soul, and human life is meant for understanding it and make progress on that platform. Most of them, they do not know. There is no education, I think. Everyone reads *Bhagavad-gītā,* mostly, but they do not understand the first lesson, *dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ* [[bg/2/13|[Bg. 2.13] ]]. Nobody understands. What is your understanding about this transmigration of the soul? **Prabhupāda:** Then what is the preparation? If we believe that we have to get another life after death, then what preparation we have made? **Indian man (1):** This is what we would like to know from... [microphone rattling] ...the learned people. --- **[[spoken/771014r1.vrn|Room Conversation — October 14, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** How are you feeling this morning, Śrīla Prabhupāda? You haven't passed any urine for quite awhile. What is the reason for that? **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** No. According to the chart, you haven't passed any urine for about eight or nine hours, ten hours, nearly ten hours. **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** Have you tried? You feel like it now? You want to try? I'll fix up the bottle. Okay. --- **[[spoken/771014r2.vrn|Room Conversation — October 14, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Bhakti-cāru:** [Transl. *He attacked them. I was talking to him and he said] "I kick them on their face." "I literally kick them on their face."* [Transl. *Whatever they have, all their points by which they want to prove their theory of evolution, by those same points he exposed their mistakes. And *prasāda* was also very nice. There were two kinds of *subjis*, *dāl-purīs*, normal *purīs* and *rubdi*.] **Prabhupāda:** [Transl. *Are they still here or gone?]**Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *Śrīla Prabhupāda? Yes, they will stay here today. We are hoping more people will come tomorrow.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Kavirāja prepared some medicine.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda. It is ready. Would you take it? Pisimā was also telling me about that medicine today. *Makara-dhvaja.*]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Makara-dhvaja can be taken.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Can be taken. So should I tell Banamāli Babu to come one day? Should I bring him?]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Go and tell him that all medicines are stopped. You have prepared *makara-dhvaja*, can it be given now or not?]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *This has to be taken once a week. Only once a week.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *So you come and see, and if you feel satisfied then start the medicine.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda. Tomorrow morning I will go to his place...]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Tell him like this.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda. That you didn't pass stool yesterday, do you feel any discomfort?]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Yesterday?]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *No, today.]*Prabhupāda:* [Transl. *No, no. Discomfort is no taste in the mouth. That's all.]**Bhakti-cāru:** [Transl. *That's from last six months you have no taste at all in the mouth.]**Prabhupāda:** [Transl. *That is the problem.]**Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *Yes.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *And this fruit juice I like. But it is cooling.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Yes.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *And if I drink milk, there is so much problem. So much...]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Mucus. *Makara-dhvaja* clears out all mucus completely.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Hmm. My tongue is drying up.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Should I give you little water, Śrīla Prabhupāda?]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Water I am drinking.]*Bhakti-cāru:* [Transl. *Should I give you little now?]**Prabhupāda:** [Transl. *No.]**Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *Then should I give you little fruit juice now? Should I make some pomegranate juice for you now, Śrīla Prabhupāda?]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Not now.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda?]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Let it be like this now.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Okay. So I won't give you fruit juice now?]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Fruit juice I am drinking.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Okay. If you don't feel like, it's all right Śrīla Prabhupāda.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Not at night time.]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Okay, Śrīla Prabhupāda.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa. You can explain the situation.]*Bhakti-cāru:* [Transl. *Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda]**Prabhupāda:**[Transl. *Can you go and tell him the present condition? And if he wants to see me...]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *Bonamāli Babu?]*Prabhupāda:* [Transl. *Yes.]**Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *Okay, Śrīla Prabhupāda.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *If he thinks...]*Bhakti-cāru:*[Transl. *In fact, the day I came I thought I will go to Bonamāli Babu the next day. Then I heard that you were still not willing to consult any Doctor. That's why I did not try. Anyway, tomorrow I will go again and bring him.]*Prabhupāda:**[Transl. *You explain the condition. If he thinks...] **Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *He wants to come Śrīla Prabhupāda. He told me that Prabhupāda said let all the medicines be stopped for some time, that's why I did not force. He was saying that the platform from which you see things, that is not possible for ordinary people like us. So since he has ordered to stop the medicine for some time, we should follow it.]*Prabhupāda:*[Transl. *Now it is stopped anyway. Let it go on like this. He may start *Makara-dhvaja*.]*Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *Now your hands and legs have swollen a little. There is little swelling in your hands and legs. But after taking Banamāli Bābu's medicine the swelling reduced.] **Prabhupāda:**[Transl. *Swelling may be reduced. But what is the use?]*Bhakti-cāru:**[Transl. *Makara-dhvaja *rasāyana* is like an Ayurvedic tonic. It increases strength and energy. It also removes mucus and cough.] **Prabhupāda:**[Transl. *Swelling in hands and legs is there from long time. Sometimes it will reduce and sometimes it will increase.] **Bhakti-cāru:** [to Upendra: Śrīla Prabhupāda wants that Bonamali Prabhu, that *kavirāja*. Should go and talk to him tomorrow. **Upendra:** Let me look at today's program. Yes. At 8:30, just now, films. And then tomorrow also at 8:30, films and slides. [break] Whatever you say, Śrīla Prabhupāda, is being recorded, and then Tamāla Kṛṣṇa and Hari-śauri, they're all busy copying down, rewriting into their diaries, 'cause your words are so nectarine. And then all the devotees are anxious to hear. So then they copy down from them. It's like a little press, already. Bhakti-caru... If you speak in Bengali, then Bhakti-caru also translates. --- **[[spoken/771014r3.vrn|Room Conversation — October 14, 1977, Vṛndāvana]]** **Pradyumna:** > tad-īkṣaṇotprema-rasāplutāśayā > jātānurāgā gata-manyavo 'rbhakān > uduhya dorbhiḥ parirabhya mūrdhani > ghrāṇair avāpuḥ paramāṁ mudaṁ te > [[sb/10/13/33|[SB. 10.13.33] ]] **Pradyumna:** Ah, one line. *Te [gopāḥ] tad-īkṣaṇotprema-rasāplutāśayāḥ [teṣāṁ sutānām īkṣaṇena udgataḥ yaḥ prema-rasaḥ tasmin āplutāḥ nimagnāḥ āśayāḥ yeṣāṁ te] jātānurāgāḥ [jātaḥ anurāgaḥ yeṣāṁ te] gata-manyavaḥ [gata-roṣāḥ] arbhakān [sutān] uduhya [utthāpya] dorbhiḥ [bāhubhiḥ] parirabhya [āliṅgya] mūrdhani [mastake] ghrāṇaiḥ paramāṁ mudam [atīva prītim] avāpuḥ [prāptāḥ].* **Pradyumna:** *Takhan gop gan, nija nija putra darsane sneha rase nimagna citta hoiya, tahader purber roso bhab dur hoilo, athatpara tahadigoke kradhe darun purbak bahu dvara alingan koriya maskagrane prama prti labh koriya chilen.* --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1967/671014_brahmananda.md|Letter to Brahmananda, 1967]] - [[../../letters/1968/681014_hayagriva.md|Letter to Hayagriva, 1968]] - [[../../letters/1971/711014_vasudeva.md|Letter to Vasudeva, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/711014_vrinda.md|Letter to Vrinda, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1973/731014_bali_mardan.md|Letter to Bali Mardan, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1973/731014_dhrstaketu.md|Letter to Dhrstaketu, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1973/731014_gunagrahi.md|Letter to Gunagrahi, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1973/731014_patita_uddharana.md|Letter to Patita Uddharana, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1974/741014_frederico_lourenco.md|Letter to Frederico Lourenco, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/741014_gurudas_prabhu.md|Letter to Gurudas Prabhu, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/741014_hanuman.md|Letter to Hanuman, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/741014_stephen_graham.md|Letter to Stephen Graham, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/741014_tusta_krsna.md|Letter to Tusta Krsna, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1976/761014_dr._w.h._wolf-rottkay.md|Letter to Dr. W.H. Wolf-Rottkay, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/761014_giriraja.md|Letter to Giriraja, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/761014_sriman_bajaji.md|Letter to Sriman Bajaji, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/761014_yasomatinandana.md|Letter to Yasomatinandana, 1976]]