# October 9 ## Spoken on October 9 *Lectures from this day: 11 recordings* --- **[1968: Lecture](spoken/1968/681009le.sea)** > But the next line is, *ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhā varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ*. There are four kinds of classification: the *brāhmaṇas,* the *kṣatriyas,* the *vaiśyas* and the *śūdras,* and... This is called *varṇa.* And *āśrama, āśrama* means spiritual situation: the *brahmacārī,* the *gṛhastha,* the *vānaprastha* and the *sannyāsī.* They are spiritually situated. So anyone, either a *brahmacārī* or a *brāhmaṇa* or a *kṣatriya* or anyone, he will fall down in either of these eight divisions of human social order. > Just like during winter season the process is to protect your body from being affected of cold. So that process is not new. Similarly, in this age... This age is called Kali-yuga. So it is recommended, *kalau tad dhari-saṅkīrtana*, where God realization is only possible by this chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Simple process. You come on. Sit down. It doesn't matter what you are, whether you are Indian or you are American or Christian or Hindu, or man, woman, black, white. It doesn't matter. You simply come, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and realize God. --- **[1972: Arrival Address](spoken/1972/721009ar.hon)** > So if we go in the *pravṛtti-mārga,* increase our sense gratification propensity, then we shall be entangled, and in this way... As human beings you have got advanced stage. The nature brings you from the aquatics, I was just stating, from the fish life, to plant life, to vegetable life, to... In this way 2,000,000's forms, gradually. This is called evolution—one after another, one after another. So long you are not human being, you are coming through the laws of nature automatically. Now, when you come to the form of human being, and *bahūnāṁ janmanām ante*, after many, many births, after many, many millions of years, you come; nature brings you. > So to bring these fools and rascals from the *pravṛtti-mārga* to *nivṛtti-mārga,* this is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Therefore we have got [indistinct] sense gratification. Then we cannot imitate. That is the whole Vedic process. Just like those who are meat-eaters, the Vedic process is, it doesn't say imitate it. No. Stop eating, we say, because our process is a little advanced than ordinary Vedic process. This is also Vedic process. Because where is the time? Where is the time? So the Vedic process says, "All right, if you cannot stop meat-eating, just offer some small animal before Goddess Kali." The worship of Goddess Kali means it is a concession to the meat-eaters. It is not required. It is tamasic. --- **[1973: Bhagavad-gītā 13.15](spoken/1973/731009bg.bom)** > Therefore we have to understand through *śāstra.* Just like Kṛṣṇa says, "I have got My body, but My body is not like your body; My body is different." That body is described, *sarvataḥ pāṇi-pādaṁ tat*. He has got such a body—it is expanded—that everywhere He has got His eyes and legs and hands and all other senses. In the next verse it is confirmed, *sarvendriya-guṇābhāsam.* He can see. Therefore He has got the eyes, *guṇābhāsa,* the origin of seeing power. But *sarvendriya-vivarjitam.* But He has no these material senses. > So Kṛṣṇa is supreme spiritual being. He has got His spiritual hands and legs and eyes. Why you accuse that He has no form? It is nonsense. It is less intelligent. He has got form. But the different things which you cannot, your poor intelligence cannot accommodate; therefore Kṛṣṇa says this is *jñāna.* One has to learn this. *Sarvendriya-guṇābhāsaṁ sarvendriya-vivarjitam. Sarvendriya-vivarjitam* means He has no spiritual senses or spiritual hands and legs, er, material hands and legs. So we have also spiritual hands and legs, but now it is covered by these material things. Therefore we cannot understand our own position also. That we cannot... *Ahaṁ brahmāsmi:* "I am also spirit soul." Therefore because it is materially covered... But Kṛṣṇa's body is not materially covered. --- **[1974: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.8.29](spoken/1974/741009sb.may)** > So Kṛṣṇa, although He's playing the part of human being, His activities are transcendental. *Na māṁ karmāṇi limpanti na me karma-phale spṛhā*. That is the distinction between Kṛṣṇa and ourself. He is killing. He has killed so many demons; from the very childhood His one side is killing—Pūtanā killing, Aghāsura, Bakāsura, this *asura,* that *asura,* then Keśī, and so many *asuras* He killed. But His killing and our killing is not the same. *Na māṁ karmāṇi limpanti.* And in the *Īśopaniṣad* is..., *apāpa-viddham.* That is Kṛṣṇa. If we imitate Kṛṣṇa... We cannot imitate. Therefore our business is to follow the words of Kṛṣṇa, not to imitate Him. That is suicidal. We shall follow the instruction of Kṛṣṇa as He is giving in the *Bhagavad-gītā.* But if we become so rascal to imitate His *rāsa-līlā,* then we'll go to hell. But the Māyāvādīs, they sometimes do that. That... In the *Bhāgavata* it is forbidden, that "Imitation of this..." *Idaṁ ca viṣṇoḥ.* What is that verse, *vraja...,* no, that...? That "These pastimes of Lord Kṛṣṇa, who is Viṣṇu, with the *gopīs,* they should not be..., not only they should be imitated, they should not be thought even within the mind, that 'We can also do like that.' " It is forbidden. > So Kuntī could understand. The devotees can understand. So He has no partiality. Nobody should misunderstand that Kṛṣṇa has got partiality. No. This partiality and enimity, friendliness, these are material, duality. Here we cannot understand good unless there is bad. Therefore it is called relative world. We cannot understand father unless there is son. We cannot understand good man unless there is bad man. So these things, duality or relative world, they should exist in this material world. Therefore in order to approach to the spiritual world, one should become above this duality. Above this duality. This duality means the intermixture of the modes of material nature, *traiguṇya.* The Sanskrit word is *traiguṇya.* So Kṛṣṇa advised Arjuna, *nistraiguṇyo bhavārjuna. Traiguṇya-viṣayā vedā nistraiguṇyo bhavārjuna*. So how one can become above these *nistraiguṇya,* er, *traiguṇya*? You... Simply by devotional service, unalloyed devotional service. Anyone who is... --- **[1975: Bhagavad-gītā 7.1](spoken/1975/751009bg.dur)** > So any conditioned soul... There are two kinds of living entities: the liberated and the conditioned soul. So we should not receive any knowledge from conditioned person. We must receive knowledge from the liberated. So Kṛṣṇa, Bhagavān, the Personality of Godhead—who can be more liberated than Himself? Therefore He says, we should accept it. If you are fortunate enough, then whatever He says, you should accept it. He says that *mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan mad-āśrayaḥ *. Everyone, at least human being, advanced human... The advanced human being is called Āryan, means advanced. Anyone who is advanced in spiritual knowledge, he is to be called Āryan. So the Āryan civilization, Vedic civilization... When Arjuna, I mean to say, denied to fight, Kṛṣṇa accused him that "You are talking like non-Āryans. You are not Āryan." *Anārya-juṣṭam, akīrti-karam arjuna* : "You are talking like a non-Āryan, and which will defame your reputation. Don't say like that." So Āryan means one who is advanced in spiritual knowledge. So Kṛṣṇa says that "If you increase your attachment for Me..." *Mayy āsakta. Mayi āsakta. Āsakta* means "attachment." "Simply if you increase your attachment for Me," *mayy āsakta-manāḥ,* "in such mind..." That is called, actually, meditation: the mind is always absorbed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is meditation. > Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ*. The *yogīs*, the real *yogīs*—not these gymnastic *yogīs;* the real *yogīs*—they, *dhyānāvasthita,* they always meditate upon Kṛṣṇa, *dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā,* by the mind. *Yam... Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā yaṁ paśyanti yoginaḥ. Paśyanti* means he sees, actually sees Kṛṣṇa. So this kind of *yoga* can be attained if we increase our attachment for Kṛṣṇa. *Mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogam.* This is *yoga,* real *yoga. Mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan mad-āśrayaḥ.* The... One should take shelter of Kṛṣṇa or shelter of a person who has taken shelter of Kṛṣṇa. *Mad-āśrayaḥ:* "One who has taken shelter of Me," or directly. So directly it is not possible. Because Arjuna was fortunate enough that he contacted Kṛṣṇa directly, Kṛṣṇa instructed him directly... So it is not possible for everyone. But if we take the shelter of a person who has taken shelter of Kṛṣṇa, that is also perfect. That is called *mayy āsakta-manāḥ pārtha yogaṁ yuñjan mad-āśrayaḥ.* This is perfect *yoga.* In the Sixth Chapter it is also said that... Kṛṣṇa says, *yoginām api sarveṣām:* "There are different kinds of *yogīs,* but of all the *yogīs,*" *yoginām api sarveṣāṁ mad-gatenāntar-ātmanā,* "one who is thinking of Me, Kṛṣṇa," *mad-gatena antar-ātmanā... Antar-ātmanā:* within the core of heart he is thinking of Kṛṣṇa. So *yoginām api sarveṣāṁ mad-gata antar-ātmanā śraddhāvān*. Śraddhāvān* means "with faith"; *bhajate,* "worships Me"; *sa me yuktatamaḥ,* "he is first-class *yogī*. He is *yogī.*" --- **[1975: Morning Walk](spoken/1975/751009mw.dur)** > We want perfect knowledge, not such, what is called, *saṁśayam.* Therefore Kṛṣṇa says *asaṁśayaṁ,* "without any doubt." That is knowledge. And *samagram,* "complete." So if we have got the chance of knowing complete, without any doubt, so why shall I go to you, rascal? Your knowledge is based on "perhaps," "maybe." So why shall I go to such knowledge? > The government created a situation, purchased all the food grains and stocked. And when the price is very high the government opened controlled shop at high price. The people had no money; therefore they were obliged to join military. These polit..., demons, they are so dangerous, simply to keep their position they are doing all nefarious activities. Simply there is... Because they don't believe in the next birth, they are not afraid of sinful activities. They can do anything: "Whatever I like. There is no... This life is finished." --- **[1976: Arrival Talk at House of Surendra Kumar Saigal](spoken/1976/761009ar.ali)** > Everyone is *abodha-jāto.* So anyone born in this material world in different platform... One may take birth as demigod in the heavenly planets or one may take birth as a human being in the lower planets. And lower than that, animal, plants. There are 8,400,000 different species of life. So any form of life, we are bound up by the laws of nature, and *bhuṅkte prakṛti-jān guṇān*. The *puruṣaḥ... Puruṣaḥ* means the living entity. *Puruṣaḥ...* Actually, nobody is *puruṣaḥ;* everyone is *prakṛti. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtim parā*. *Parā prakṛti.* The material, matter, is the *aparā-prakṛti,* and spirit soul is *parā-prakṛti.* So in the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is clearly explained, *bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ. > The real problem is *mṛtyu.* But they have taken it that "It is ordinary." But nobody wants to die. The education is *na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre*. But who knows that I do not die after the destruction of the body? Then why I am put into this position that I have to change this body, I have to die? This question does not arise. Therefore they're *abodha.* The instruction is, *na jāyate na mriyate vā kadācit na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre*. There is no inquiry that "If I'm not born, why I am born in this body?" This is question. *Athāto brahma-jijñāsā.* "If I am not subjected to death, then why I am dying?" This question does not arise at all. Therefore everyone is *abodha-jāto.* Nobody is *subodha.* Everyone is *abodha.* The problem is there, but he does not inquire. --- **[1976: Garden Conversation](spoken/1976/761009g1.ali)** > So the spiritual movement means to take up the spirit soul within the body and to elevate him from the conditioned life. And that is spiritual movement. He has been put into condition. So that action can be taken without any hindrances, without any impediment. *Ahaituky apratihatā [*SB* 1.2.6]. That verse I was speaking yesterday, that without any cause, without any impediments, the soul can be raised by the process. Kṛṣṇa says, *māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ*. Never mind one is born in low class family, poor, ugly, uneducated family. It doesn't matter. But he can be raised. What is the process? *Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya:* "One has to take shelter of Me." That is Kṛṣṇa conscious movement. We are giving equal chance everyone. It doesn't matter what he is. Kṛṣṇa says, *māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ. Pāpa-yoni* means low class, poor, uneducated, ugly, no education. That is *pāpa-yoni.* So they can be raised. Kṛṣṇa says. How? *Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya:* if he is engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. > Therefore it is the topmost welfare activities in the human society. Anyone can be raised. There are different grades of life all over the world. Some are black, some are white, some are ugly, some are poor. Varieties. Some are trees, some are plants, some are aquatics, some are birds, beasts, insects. Different varieties of life, 8,400,000. Some of them demigods: Brahmā, Indra, Candra. Very, very powerful. Just like this sun, that is also a planet, and the chief person is the sun-god, Vivasvān. We get all this information. There is. These rascals, they do not know what are these planets, what are the arrangement. They are exactly like this planet. Just like here also, we have got president. It is expected, one president or one king in one planet. That was formerly. On this planet there was one king: the Pāṇḍavas, up to Mahārāja Parīkṣit, five thousand years ago. One king of the whole world. One kingdom, one ruling, one culture, Vedic culture. Gradually we're losing... The culture is lost, and anyone is doing as he likes. No king, no ruling. Therefore chaotic condition. Otherwise, according to God's plan, every planet there is one chief person ruling. --- **[1976: Room Conversation](spoken/1976/761009r1.ali)** > Surendra Kumar: It is kneaded in the flour and little ghee and the *paraṭhā* will be... It is wonderful for your joints. And this arthritis, it is wonderful. I got it about a year back and put in my garden because my wife needed, and we were getting it from somebody else's garden. So I told my gardener, "Why don't you put it in our own? We have plenty of land." > Surendra Kumar: Which has got pulp? Yes. You want it? I have got it in my house. My wife takes them by making in the *chapāti* or *paraṭa,* because of her knees. It is wonderful for this pains in the knees. Yes. --- **[1976: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.2.5](spoken/1976/761009sb.ali)** > That we do not know, that next life. Neither we endeavor what is next life. We have to accept a next life after giving up this body. Therefore we must be prepared for that purpose. So preparation means... In the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is said, *yānti deva-vratā devān .* If you prepare yourself to go to the higher planetary system, Candraloka, Sūryaloka, Indraloka, Svargaloka, Brahmaloka, Janaloka, Maharloka, Tapoloka—there are so many, hundreds. If you want to go there, then you prepare in that way. *Yānti deva-vratā devān pitṝn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ.* So if you want to go to the Pitṛloka, you can go there. If you want to go to the higher planetary system, in the Devaloka, you can go there. And if you want to remain here, you can remain here. And if you want to go to the *loka,* Goloka, Vṛndāvana, *mad-yājino 'pi yānti mām ,* you can go there, back to home, back to Godhead. That is possible. Kṛṣṇa says *tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti*. > If you like you can go back to home, back to God. That is possible. So therefore the intelligent persons, they must know, "If I go to the Devaloka, what is the result of going there. If I go to the Pitṛloka, what is the result. If I remain here, what is the result. And if I go back to home, back to God, what is the result." The ultimate result is that if you can go back to home, back to Godhead, then Kṛṣṇa says what is the result. The result is *tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti*, that you don't get birth again in this material world. So that is the highest gain. *Punar janma naiti mām eti.* --- ## Letters on October 9 *Letters from this day: 13* --- **[1967: Letter to Sri Krishna Panditji](letters/1967/671009_sri_krishna_panditji)** > (3) I have not begun my printing works because you have not said anything about the room. If you therefore settle about the room in either of the above mentioned (1) & (2) (proposed) * I shall come * from Calcutta, do the needful & then I shall go back to U.S.A. If you are not settling anything * room, then I may not come back to Delhi any more. --- **[1968: Letter to Dayananda](letters/1968/681009_dayananda)** > In reply, I may inform you that I have got very good appreciation for you and your good wife, Nandarani, as well as for Aniruddha. --- **[1968: Letter to Satsvarupa](letters/1968/681009_satsvarupa)** > So far my going to Boston, unless the students agree to hear patiently for some time, Bhagavad-gita, Teachings of Lord Caitanya, the casual lectures will not be very much beneficial. So they are not very much interested, otherwise they would have come to our classes. --- **[1971: Letter to Bali-Mardana](letters/1971/711009_bali-mardana)** > So we all combined together have taken a great task of this Krsna Consciousness movement so I am very glad to learn that you are all gradually understanding the importance of this movement. --- **[1971: Letter to Karandhara](letters/1971/711009_karandhara)** > If you think it is wise to purchase that house you can give the loan of $15,000 from the amount of $33,000 advanced to BTG a/c. But one thing is that these amounts are especially kept to meet emergency credit with Dai Nippon because twice I paid them at the rate of $20,000, to meet their immediate demand. --- **[1971: Letter to Satsvarupa](letters/1971/711009_satsvarupa)** > I am very glad to know that you are trying your best to organize a school in Dallas and purchase a building in this connection, and that you are very much anxious to get a $15,000 loan from me. --- **[1971: Letter to Upendra](letters/1971/711009_upendra)** > So far your question, the soul is fundamentally pure but he has an aptitude to come to the impure state of material contamination. He has got the liberty of staying within the pure state or becoming contaminated. --- **[1973: Letter to Mukunda](letters/1973/731009_mukunda)** > to the Book Fund. So London Temple is debtor about $50,000. So if you continue with enthusiasm like this within three or four months you can liquidate the amount. This will be a great credit for you. --- **[1973: Letter to Niranjana](letters/1973/731009_niranjana)** > I am very glad to know that you have passed your examination and have been awarded a scholarship. There is no difficulty for arranging your accommodation and Prasadam in Glasgow, as we have got our branch there. When you go I shall personally give intimation to our Glasgow center. --- **[1974: Letter to Jadurani](letters/1974/741009_jadurani)** > For the portraits of Gaura Kisora and Jagannatha das Babaji, yes you can use the mangalarcana prayers, and also the same for Bhaktivinode Thakura. Regarding Devahuti's painting for Ādi lila, yes you can use it. --- **[1974: Letter to Mr. Jayakar](letters/1974/741009_mr._jayakar)** > I will be going to Bombay, and I am just waiting for my new apartment to be finished and the construction to be completed. It is at Hare Krishna Land, Gandhi Gram Road, Juhu, Bombay-54. --- **[1974: Letter to Pariksit](letters/1974/741009_pariksit)** > Regarding Krsna das Kaviraja, there is no such information, but as far as possible, he was brahmacari. The bodily hues of the devotees of Lord Nityananda, why green? --- **[1974: Letter to Ramesvara](letters/1974/741009_ramesvara)** > I have already told you to go on with your business of distributing my books. There is no need of transferring the BBT accounts to New York now. Let it go on as it is. ---