September 30

Prabhupāda: Yes. Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi. [devotees respond] [sings] Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi. [Prabhupāda chants Brahma-saṁhitā verses, devotees respond] So our program is to worship with love and devotion Govinda, the original person. Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We are teaching people to love Kṛṣṇa, that’s all. Our program is to love, to place your love in the proper place. That is our program. Everyone wants to love, but he is being frustrated on account of his love being misplaced. People do not understand it. They are being taught, “First of all, you love your body.” Then little extended, “You love your father and mother.” Then “Love your brother and sister.” Then “Love your society, love your country, love the whole human society, humanity.” But all this extended love, so-called love, will not give you satisfaction unless you reach to the point to love Kṛṣṇa. Then you’ll be satisfied. Just like if you throw a stone on some reservoir of water, on a lake, there immediately begins a circle. The circle expands, and expanding, expanding, expanding, when the circle touches the shore, it stops. Unless the circle reaches the bank or the shore of the reservoir of the water, it goes on increasing. So we have to increase. Increase. The increase means there are two ways. If you practice, “I love my society, I love my country, I love my human nation,” then “Living entities,” ...

Prabhupāda: Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you very much for your coming here to participate in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. We are calling everyone to go back to home, back to Godhead. This is our movement, Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Just now we described the place where we intend to go. That is Goloka Vṛndāvana. There the Supreme Personality of Godhead is residing with His consort, Rādhārāṇī. Rādhā-Mādhava. Kṛṣṇa is the husband—not exactly husband, but friend. The same mellow. As you try to enjoy here, boy and girlfriend, not married, but an extra ecstasy without being married, conjugal love, the ideal conjugal love is there, Kṛṣṇa and Rādhā. Here the same thing is present, but in a perverted sense. The origin is there. Jaya rādhā-mādhava kuñja-vihārī. Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, They are always engaged in loving affairs in the kuñja, in the bushes of Vṛndāvana. Jaya rādhā-mādhava kuñja-vihārī. Gopījana-vallabha: He is very dear to the gopīs and the gopas. Gopas means the cowherd men and the cowherd boys. So Vṛndāvana is village life. It is not a town like Los Angeles. It is village. It is village, and they are always taking pleasure on the bank of Yamunā. Yamunā-tīra-vana-cārī. And there are very nice gardens on the bank of the Yamunā.

Prabhupāda: …making scientific advancement why? Svarūpa Dāmodara: Because, they want to explore the wonders of nature but… Prabhupāda: The wonders of nature that means the wonders are already there in the nature. Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes and they want to know more. Prabhupāda: Eh? Svarūpa Dāmodara: They want to know more and more. Prabhupāda: What is the use of knowing? Kevala-bodha-labdhaye [SB 10.14.4], there are so many wonderful things, so wonderful things are being done by somebody else. Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah. Prabhupāda: You simply… Because you know that’s your success of life? There are so many wonders still to be known, cannot know, so what is the aim of your life? Simply to know the wonders?

Prabhupāda: So there are some remarkable points in this verse. Dasyu-prāyeṣu rājasu. Rājasu means government. Rāja: king, or government. So monarchy is now abolished practically all over the world. Now it is democratic government. So this so-called democratic government or Communist government, as they are going on, they will become rogues and thieves, dasyu-prāyeṣu. All the rogues, thieves, plunderers, they will capture. Because it is by vote. So dasyu… Just like plunderers, rogues, they, on the point of revolver, they take away your money, so they will take vote on the point of revolver. Actually, it is happening. In Korea it so happened that sometimes the Communists are coming in power, and sometimes the Capitalists coming in power, America and Russia. So poor people, as soon as there is Communist government, they are under the influence: “If you don’t do this, then you’ll be shot.” By force. The people do not know what is government generally. They want to live peacefully. They want a secure place. So that is not their business, modern government. Their only business is how to collect tax and divide it amongst the government servants. That’s all.

There are many scriptures and many philosophers, ṛṣi, as I explained yesterday, nāsau ṛṣir yasya mataṁ na bhinnā: “He’s not a philosopher who hasn’t got a different opinion.” Because this material world is practically a challenge to the supreme authority. The supreme authority, Kṛṣṇa, He’s the bhokta actually. He’s the enjoyer. bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānāṁ jñātvā māṁ śāntim ṛcchati That point is missing. Real enjoyer or proprietor is Kṛṣṇa. Bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram. He’s the proprietor, sarva loka, not only of this loka, earthly planet, but there are innumerable planets within this universe, and there are innumerable universes also, not one universe. Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi [Bs. 5.40]. Jagad-aṇḍa means universe. It is just like egg shape, anda. You can see this universe, the sky is…, horizon. So it is just like egg shape. All the planets and the universes, they are egg-shaped. Therefore they are called anda, jagad-aṇḍa, brahmanda.

Prabhupāda: Tathā paramahaṁsānām. Kṛṣṇa is realized by qualification, and the qualifications are described here. The first qualification is paramahaṁsa. Paramahaṁsa… Parama means the best, and haṁsa means the swans. So there are different types of swans. We have seen. Out of them, the white big swan is accepted the best of them. So this haṁsa, or this swan, has got a qualification special, that you offer them milk mixed with water, so the haṁsa, it will take the milk portion and leave aside the water portion. Every animal has got a special qualification. Just like you’ll find the lizard, a very plain wall, polished wall, but they’ll go very swiftly. You have no science to do that. You cannot do it. The vulture, it goes very high. They have got very small eyes, but they can see from miles away where is some dead body. That is their business.

Prabhupāda: Japan also. Well, everyone is against us. Dr. Patel: No, these boys who are recruited newly, they don’t have much about the idea of Vaiṣṇavism. That is the… Prabhupāda: That’s all right. That’s a fact. But what can I do? They are my helper. Dr. Patel: They have to be trained up earlier and then let loose. Otherwise, you know, they create it. Because all the bad impressions are for them. Prabhupāda: No. They’ll be trained while working. Not that simply theorizing at home. No. Dr. Patel: That’s right, but I think… Prabhupāda: They should work, and at the same time, they may fall down, just like a child tries to walk, falls down, again walks, again… Then he becomes complete. Dr. Patel: Those thirty, I mean, characteristics of a sādhu that are depicted in the, in Bhāgavata… Prabhupāda: That is not possible in one day. Dr. Patel: Thirty cannot come, but a few should come. Prabhupāda: Yes. Few that… They are… Yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcanā sarvair guṇais tatra samāsate. If they have got unflinching faith in Kṛṣṇa and guru, that is all qualification.

Prabhupāda: One boy, he was coming to me. In that 100… [break] about 171st Street, all my things were stolen. My tape recorder, typewriter. Fortunately they did not touch my manuscript that I was writing, typing my books. So some money was stolen. Then one boy, he was coming to me, he told me, “Please come to my place.” A loft, Bowery Street. I did not know the Bowery Street was not a good quarter. All bums and drunks. When I see them, one Jewish friend, he had electrical shop, he told me, “Swāmījī, you have gone to Bowery Street? Oh, it is not your place.” I did not know that it is full of drunkards. But they were lying down in front of my door, but they were respectful. When I’d go, these drunkard comes, and they respectfully give me ways. And they would lie down on urine and something like that, on water. Then the boy who took me there… He was Murray. His last title was Murray. And he was taking LSD. So since I went there, he did not go to work. Otherwise, he was working and getting daily twenty-five dollars. In some dock he was working. Since I went, he stopped working, and I had to pay 125 dollars for the loft. One lady was the landlord.

So Kṛṣṇa is encouraging Arjuna to kill Aśvatthāmā on so many grounds. First of all, he has killed the boys who were sleeping at night. And another very important point is that ātatāyī. Ātatāyī means the enemy, aggressor. Unnecessarily one who attacks, he is called ātatāyī. One who sets fire in your house, one who kidnaps your wife or somebody in the family, and one who gives poison—and they are so many, a list of ascertaining an ātatāyī. So He described, Kṛṣṇa described the Aśvatthāmā as ātatāyī. He’s not a brave soldier, so he should be killed. So many faults Kṛṣṇa found in his behavior. And bhartuś ca vipriyaṁ vīra. He could not satisfy his master also. Sometimes the servants do something abominable for pleasing the master. But he could not please even the master. He wanted to please Duryodhana, his master, promising him that he would kill all the five brothers, the Pāṇḍavas. But instead of killing the Pāṇḍavas, he killed their sons. Duryodhana did not like that, because he knew that the whole Kuru family practically was killed. Only the five brothers, and Mahārāja Parīkṣit was in the womb of his mother, they survived. So Duryodhana did not like. Duryodhana, whatever he may be, he was a kṣatriya and he fought bravely. So he did not like the Kuru dynasty should be finished. He did not like it. But when he understood that the five sons of Pāṇḍavas were also killed, he became very much disappointed because the ...