# September 23 ## Spoken on September 23 *Lectures from this day: 6 recordings* --- **[1971: Room Conversation with African Intelligentsia](spoken/1971/710923r1.nai)** > By bodily exercise there is process, mechanical process, to control over the body and the senses, because our this tribulation, this condition, material condition, is due to my mind. I am desiring in different way. *Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisraṁ*. *Adānta, adānta* means uncontrolled; *go, go* means *indriya*. Therefore *gosvāmī*. *Go* means senses, one who has become the master of the senses. He is called *gosvāmī* or *svāmī.* The *sannyāsī* is called *svāmī* because he is supposed to have control over his mind and senses. > So this soul is existing, but the body is changing. Therefore this soul existed before getting this body, and soul continue to exist after annihilation of this body. Is it clear? Therefore the soul is ever-existing: there is no beginning, no end. The end and beginning is calculated in terms of this body, material body. In the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is clearly stated there that this change of body is going on, so when this body will be changed*, tathā dehāntara-prāptir* : *āntaram,* another. After giving up this body, the soul gets another body, *dehāntaram.* --- **[1972: Morning Walk](spoken/1972/720923mw.la)** > That we have explained in the *Brahma-saṁhitā* that the Mahā-Viṣṇu from his breathing millions of universes are coming and again they are; *yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya jīvanti loma-vilajā jagad. viṣṇur mahān sa iha. kalā-viśeṣo* [Bs. 5.48]. This Mahā-Viṣṇu is only a portion. Is a plenary expansion of Kṛṣṇa. > Svarūpa Dāmodara: The, the, the problem of relativity is all right. Say for example I can make five balls and one ball is smaller than others. So like that I can make five different kinds of balls but these are related with other but I'm, I'm making these balls, you know. So there has to be a, a, a person who can make these relative things. --- **[1974: Rādhāṣṭamī Bhagavad-gītā 4.10](spoken/1974/740923bg.cal)** > Similarly, this material enjoyment is not required, because we are spiritual entity. We have nothing to do with this... *Asaṅgo 'yaṁ puruṣaḥ.* We have no connection with this material world. But somehow or other, we are attached to this material enjoyment and we have forgotten Kṛṣṇa, we have forgotten our home, we have forgotten our real identity. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says here, *vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhāḥ. Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhā man-mayā mām upāśritāḥ*. If somebody understands that "This is not my home. I am wandering in these foreign countries," that is knowledge. But those who have no knowledge, they think that they are this body. > Kṛṣṇa says, "I am sitting in everyone's heart." And because the living entity wanted to do something for his sense enjoyment, He gives the chance, "All right, here is the chance. You can do it." But actually, Kṛṣṇa does not want it. But we want it. We want it. Just like a father says, "My dear boy, you do not do this. You do this." But the son insists, "No, I'll do this." But therefore father also says, "All right, do it at your risk." --- **[1976: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.7.26](spoken/1976/760923sb.vrn)** > So if you go on the ordinary way, from the *karma* platform to *jñāna* platform, from *jñāna* platform to *yoga* platform, but ultimately you have to come to the *bhakti* platform. If you do not come to the *bhakti* platform, then there is no question of liberation. That is not possible. You can get better position by *karma, jñāna, yoga*. Suppose a *yogī,* he can achieve many wonderful things. Suppose we can fly in the sky by airplane. Many hundreds of miles we can. But a *yogī,* within a second he can reach even the sun planet. That yogic perfection is there. *Prāpti-siddhi.* It is called *prāpti-siddhi.* A perfect *yogī,* simply by catching the beam of sunlight, he can go to the sun planet, he can go to the moon planet, within a second. That is called *yoga-siddhi.* But even if you go to the sun planet or moon planet by *yoga-siddhi* or material science, what is the profit? There is no profit. Kṛṣṇa says, *ābrahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ punar āvartino 'rjuna* : "Even if you approach the topmost planet, Brahmaloka, you have to come back again." Again come back, again become grass, and again be eaten by cows, and again somebody drinks milk, and he gets the semina, again gives you birth in the womb of woman. These subtle laws they do not know, how things are happening in the subtle ways. > So Aśvatthāmā's *brahmāstra...* We have discussed about *brahmāstra.* It is almost similar to the modern nuclear weapon or bomb, but it is made with chemicals, but this *brahmāstra* is made of *mantra.* That is the subtle way. Modern science has not reached to that point of subtle existence. Therefore they cannot understand how transmigration of the soul takes place. The modern science has no knowledge. Imperfect knowledge. They see the gross body, but they have no knowledge about the subtle body. But the subtle body is there. Just like we do not see your mind, but I know that you have got mind. You do not see my mind, but you know that I have got mind. Mind, intelligence and ego. My conception, identity, "I am," that conception is there. That is ego. And my intelligence and my mind, you cannot see, neither I can see. Therefore how the mind, intelligence and personal identity, or egotism, carries the soul to other body, they do not see it. They cannot see it. They see the gross body is stopped, everything is stopped. The gross body is burned into ashes; therefore they think everything is finished. *Bhasmī-bhūtasya dehasya kutaḥ punar āgamano bhaved* [Cārvāka Muni]. The atheist class, they'll think like that. With poor fund of knowledge, they think that "I see the body is now burnt into ashes. Then where is the soul?" So "There is no soul, there is no God, it is all imagination." But that is not the fact; not that is the fact. The fact is that the gross body is finished, but the subtle body is there. *Mano buddhir ahaṅkāraḥ. Bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca*. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām.* So the action and reaction of the subtle thing, subtle matter... Mind is also matter, but subtle matter, very fine. Just like sky, ether. Ether is also matter, but it is very subtle, fine. And finer than the ether is the mind, and the finer than the mind is the intelligence. And finer than the intelligence is my egotism: "I am," this conception. --- ## Letters on September 23 *Letters from this day: 10* --- **[1967: Letter to Brahmananda](letters/1967/670923_brahmananda)** > Please therefore send one copy of the Gitopanisad MSS as instructed above. Let me begin the printing immediately as we have waited so much time. --- **[1967: Letter to Gargamuni](letters/1967/670923_gargamuni)** > I am also glad that you are doing your work for the Society nicely. I was so much anxious for your illness. --- **[1967: Letter to Himavati](letters/1967/670923_himavati)** > Please try to be steadfast in your time of pregnancy and Krishna will be pleased. --- **[1967: Letter to Rayarama](letters/1967/670923_rayarama)** > Yesterday morning I sent Kirtanananda to London with a letter of introduction to Miss D.C. I hope this lady who is supposed to be a Gaudiya Vaisnava will receive him well there and there is possibility to start a center there. --- **[1967: Letter to Satsvarupa](letters/1967/670923_satsvarupa)** > Please send a letter of invitation stating that my presence is urgently required in the States. I received many letters from you and some I have replied. --- **[1968: Letter to Yamuna](letters/1968/680923_yamuna)** > Regarding the lost certificate paper: I understand from Govinda devi that you have got it back. If I get opportunity to prepare some nice slides from Srimad-Bhagavatam and make tape records on the prayers offered to the Deity in the slide, as well as explain the whole slide in English, all tape recorded, this will be very nice idea. --- **[1970: Letter to Bibhavati](letters/1970/700923_bibhavati)** > Your letter addressed to His Holiness the President of Gaudiya Math, Bagh Bazar, is in my hand. --- **[1972: Letter to Kirtanananda](letters/1972/720923_kirtanananda)** > The sandesh was the first class sandesh I have tasted in your country, you have mastered the art perfectly well, thank you very much. --- **[1976: Letter to Giriraja](letters/1976/760923_giriraja)** > Harikesa is not working as my secretary now; he has been sent for preaching work. The statement on Bhavan's Journal has been sent to them. --- **[1976: Letter to Rupanuga](letters/1976/760923_rupanuga)** > Regarding the editorial policy of BTG, if the editorial board is not expert enough they should be changed. ---