# September 17 *Lectures from this day: 7 recordings* --- **[[spoken/690917sb.lon|SB 5.5.2 — September 17, 1969, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** > ...mahāntas te sama-cittāḥ praśāntā > vimanyavaḥ suhṛdaḥ sādhavo ye > [[sb/5/5/2|[SB. 5.5.2] ]] The last meeting we have been discussing about the path of salvation. There are two paths. One path is to salvation. Salvation means liberation from this material bondage. People do not understand what is material bondage, but those who are in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they are educated what is bondage and what is liberation. A spirit soul, being part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, he is by nature very powerful. We do not know how much spiritual power we have got, but that is being suppressed by the material covering. Just like this fire. This fire, if there are too many ashes, the heat of the fire is not properly felt. But you move the ashes and just fan it, and when it is blazing, then you get the proper heat and you can utilize it for so many purposes. --- **[[spoken/720917mw.la|Morning Walk — September 17, 1972, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** That's all right, you go to primitive state and be steady, why do you artificially try to come to so-called civilised state? Śyāmasundara: The next plan is to harness the atomic energy but there is one constraining factor there and that would be the waste. Atomic energy pollutes the atmosphere. Śyāmasundara: They say that that will last about another fifty years before the atmosphere is too contaminated, they will use it all by then and they're hoping by then they will have harnessed the sunshine, solar energy. --- **[[spoken/720917sb.la|SB 1.3.11-12 — September 17, 1972, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** [*Govindam* prayers playing; sings along] [leads singing of *Jaya Rādhā-Mādhava*]* [*prema-dhvani*]* Thank you very much. **Devotees:** All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda. All glories to Ācāryadeva. **[obeisances] Prabhupāda:Hmm. Thank you. Hmm. Pradyumna: *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,* Canto One, Chapter 3, text 11. [leads chanting of verse] [**Prabhupāda and **devotees repeat] --- **[[spoken/750917mw.vrn|Morning Walk [partially recorded] — September 17, 1975, Vṛndāvana]]** **Dhanañjaya:** ...at midday. He said we should also fast this morning. In fact, he said we should really fast all day and break the fast at moonrise. --- **[[spoken/750917sb.vrn|SB 6.2.14 — September 17, 1975, Vṛndāvana]]** **Nitāi:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [devotees repeat] **Sixth Canto, Second Chapter, verse number fourteen.* [leads chanting of verse, etc.]* *sāṅketyaṁ pārihāsyaṁ vā stobhaṁ helanam eva vā vaikuṇṭha-nāma-grahaṇam aśeṣāgha-haraṁ viduḥ* [[sb/6/2/14|[SB. 6.2.14] ]] --- **[[spoken/760917r1.vrn|Room Conversation — September 17, 1976, Vṛndāvana]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...one horse within the mouth—that is God. One hill. One Pūtanā, sucking the breast, her life goes. That is God. Why shall I take some cheap God? We are not so foolish. Here is the... So many great saintly persons hearing about God. *Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ* [[sb/1/2/17|[SB. 1.2.17] ]]. They are fools, hearing about Kṛṣṇa? Such great, great personalities? And Śukadeva Gosvāmī is speaking. Are they fools? All of them fools? One, two may be fool. They were wholesale fools? All the great personalities, they're all fools? Asita, Devala, Vyāsa, Nārada—all big personalities—Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Caitanya Mahāprabhu—they're all fools? I may be fool. They are not fools. *Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ* [[cc/madhya/17/186|[Cc. Madhya 17.186] ]]. Why shall I accept a rascal God? *Varīyān eṣa te praśnaḥ* [[sb/2/1/1|[SB. 2.1.1] ]]. "Oh, you want to hear about Kṛṣṇa?" *Varīyān eṣa te praśnaḥ.* Śukadeva was praising: "Oh, glorious, you have taken... Yes." Here is God. Breathing, and innumerable universes are coming. Here is God. Sleeping and breathing is not unnatural. He is also—*nityo nityānāṁ cetanaḥ* [Kaṭha Upaniṣad* 2.2.13*]—like us. But like not us. He can breathe and... That is the difference. Breathing is common. I breathe; He breathes. That's all right. But His breathing, my breathing is not the same breathing. He eats; I eat. That's all right. But when He eats, Mother Yaśodā sees all the universes are within Him. They cannot understand this. That we are equal, that's all right, but there is difference. So far I am a living being, He's also a living being, but He's supreme living being. How? Because I breathe, some dust comes and goes out, and when He breathes some universes come out. This is the difference. So because He is breathing and I am breathing, therefore equal? No. *Paśyaty acakṣuḥ.* He sees, but not like us. *Kṣetra-jñaṁ cāpi māṁ viddhi sarva-kṣetreṣu bhārata* [[bg/13/3|[Bg. 13.3] ]]. He's seeing every particular thing, anywhere. *Kṣetra-jñaṁ cāpi māṁ viddhi sarva-kṣetreṣu.* I can see within my limit, or I can feel pains and pleasure within my... But He knows everything, everywhere. *Sarva-kṣetreṣu.* And because I cannot become like Him, therefore Māyāvādīs say *kalpana,* "This is imagination." He wants to make God like himself, and he wants to become like God. Therefore all description about God he thinks imagination, *kalpana. Kalpana.* Dr. Frog. Huh? "More than this water, the...? How it is possible? Atlantic Ocean, very, very big. What is that big? Maybe four feet, five?" Yes. Otherwise *kalpana*. It it is not within his "feet" estimation, then he's *kalpana,* imagination. This is their knowledge. I can think of three feet, four feet, five feet, ten feet, hundred feet—like that. And when I'm informed, "No, no, it is unlimited feet." "Ah, this is *kalpana."* This is going on. --- **[[spoken/760917sb.vrn|SB 1.7.20-21 — September 17, 1976, Vṛndāvana]]** **Pradyumna:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. *[devotees repeat] *[chants verse]* **Translation:** [03:21] "Since his life was in danger, he touched water in sanctity and concentrated upon the chanting of the hymns for throwing nuclear weapons, although he did not know how to withdraw such weapons." --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1968/680917_brahmananda.md|Letter to Brahmananda, 1968]] - [[../../letters/1968/680917_janaki.md|Letter to Janaki, 1968]] - [[../../letters/1969/690917_krsna_dasa.md|Letter to Krsna Dasa, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1970/700917_bali-mardana.md|Letter to Bali-Mardana, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700917_jagadisa.md|Letter to Jagadisa, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700917_sudama.md|Letter to Sudama, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1974/740917_prabhas.md|Letter to Prabhas, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/740917_satsvarupa.md|Letter to Satsvarupa, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1975/750917_dr._babbar.md|Letter to Dr. Babbar, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750917_sri_ram_kumar.md|Letter to Sri Ram Kumar, 1975]]