# September 3 ## Spoken on September 3 *Lectures from this day: 9 recordings* --- **[1971: Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura's Appearance Day Lecture](spoken/1971/710903ba.lon)** > So *śrutayo vibhinnāḥ.* Scriptures are different. Arguments, that is also not helpful. One man may argue better than me. Then philosophy: The philosophy, it is said, *nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam*. One philosopher is differing from another philosopher. Just now today Śyāmasundara has purchased one book about different philosophers. So that, you also cannot ascertain what is truth. Therefore *śāstra* says, *dharmasya tattvaṁ nihitaṁ guhāyām.* The truth is very confidential. So if you want to know that truth, *mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ*, you should have to follow the great *ācāryas.* Then you will understand. > In the *Bhagavad-gītā,* therefore, it is recommended *ācāryopāsanam. Ācārya-upāsanā.* Not only worshiping the Lord, but also the *ācārya.* Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, *guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpayā pāya bhakti-latā-bīja*.Guru,ācārya* and Kṛṣṇa. One should seek favor of both of them. Not that "I am now seeking favor of Kṛṣṇa. --- **[1971: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 5.5.5](spoken/1971/710903sb.lon)** > Therefore our position is marginal. We can take shelter of the material energy or the spiritual energy, as we like. If we take the shelter of material energy, then we become entangled. Therefore it is called *daivī hy eṣā guṇa-mayī mama māyā duratyayā*. Without knowledge, without identification, if we take the shelter of material energy, then we become in darkness. *Tṛtīya karma-saṅga anya śaktir iṣyate.* This third energy, material, I mean to say, human being, or living entity... > So love cannot be possible within this material world because everyone has got the intention to satisfy his senses. Therefore love is not possible in the material world. Love is possible only in the spiritual atmosphere. When we know how to love Kṛṣṇa, or God, then our life is... *Yenātmā suprasīdati.* By that love you'll be fully satisfied. *Ahaituky apratihatā yenātmā suprasīdati. Sa vai puṁsāṁ paro dharmo yato bhaktir adhokṣaje*. So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to train people how to satisfy the senses of Kṛṣṇa. Then all problems will be solved. --- **[1973: Bhagavad-gītā 2.33–35](spoken/1973/730903bg.lon)** > Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that *tataḥ sva-dharmaṁ kīrtiṁ ca:* "You will, by neglecting your *sva-dharma,* your professional or occupational duty, and minimizing the importance of your recognition, *kīrti...*" *Kīrtir yasya sa jīvati:* "Anyone who is reputed for his good activities, he lives forever." *Kīrtir yasya sa jīvati. Bhaja sādhu-samāgamam. Tyaja durjana-saṁsargaṁ bhaja sādhu-samāgamam.* Cāṇakya Paṇḍita also says *kīrtiḥ sa...* Who lives forever? One who has got reputation for his..., one who is famous for his good activities. "So don't try to lose your reputation. You are a great fighter, recognized by so many authorities, and if you don't fight, then people will say, 'Now Arjuna is finished. He cannot anymore fight.' So don't lose this reputation. Don't be deviated from your occupational duty as a *kṣatriya.* If you do all these things, then *pāpam avāpsyasi.* You don't think that it will be pious. You will, on the other hand, you will become impious." *Pāpam avāpsyasi.* > So violence and nonviolence. Our great leader, Mahatma Gandhi, he wanted to prove from *Bhagavad-gītā* nonviolence. He started the nonviolence movement, and he wanted to support... Everyone takes advantage of *Bhagavad-gītā* and tries to support his view on the strength of *Bhagavad-gītā.* Therefore you will find so many interpretation. Everyone wants to utilize. There are more than six hundred publication, commentaries, on *Bhagavad-gītā.* One Dr. Rele[?] in Bombay, he has interpreted *Bhagavad-gītā* as talks between a physician and a patient. --- **[1975: Morning Walk](spoken/1975/750903mw.vrn)** > But because you want to cheat Kṛṣṇa, therefore they are cheating you. They are not your servant. "My servant." Just like the police. Police is punishing you not on their own account. Because you are disobedient, you must be punished. *Daivī hy eṣā guṇa-mayī*. >indirectly forcing that "You be Kṛṣṇa conscious. Otherwise you'll be punished." Why police is so unkind? Because the indirect way is that "You become lawful; otherwise you'll continue to be suffering by us." So intelligent person thinks of it, and he becomes Kṛṣṇa conscious. And those who are rascals, fools, bewildered, they think, "We shall adjust it by manufacturing every year new type of motorcars." Although there is accident... The increase of motorcar means increasing the death rate of public. Huh? And still they'll do that. It is becoming problem in cities in Europe and America. All roads and streets are always congested. They cannot drive even at ten miles speed. Still, they are increasing. Still, they are increasing motorcar. --- **[1975: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.67](spoken/1975/750903sb.vrn)** > So this devotional service means to go above *sattva-guṇa. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate*.* You have to transcend all the material qualities, even *sattva-guṇa.* Therefore a Vaiṣṇava is above *sattva-guṇa.* So his brahminical qualities is supposed to be included. A Vaiṣṇava is already a *brāhmaṇa.* We give a Vaiṣṇava the sacred thread, the mark of becoming a *brāhmaṇa,* because without becoming a *brāhmaṇa,* nobody can come to the platform of Vaiṣṇava. That is the idea. Nobody should come to the platform of *śuddha-sattva* without being elevated to the *sattva-guṇa* platform. So this man... *Sattva-guṇa*... He was already *sattva-guṇa.* He was son of a *brāhmaṇa.* He was being trained up very nicely. But because it was not *śuddha-sattva-guṇa,* therefore he fell down, even on the *sattva-guṇa* platform. But when one is on the *śuddha-sattva-guṇa*... Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. This man was brahminically qualified, but as soon as he saw that a *śūdrāṇī* and *śūdra* were engaged in lusty affairs, he fell down. But see the behavior of Haridāsa Ṭhākura. Because he was situated on the *śuddha-sattva-guṇa* and, although he was young man, one, another young prostitute came to deviate him, and he remained in his position. Rather, he converted the prostitute to become a devotee. This is the difference between *sattva-guṇa* and *śuddha-sattva-guṇa.* If you keep yourself on the *śuddha-sattva-guṇa,* then you will be able to convert others to become devotees. Therefore it is not difficult. It is very easy also. Kṛṣṇa says, > So this man, Ajāmila, by his association with the prostitute he degraded. Therefore it is the duty of the guardians, of the government, of the father to protect the civilization from degradation. But nobody cares for that. Therefore, at the present moment everything is chaotic. They are degraded. Prostitution is allowed freely, bad association, and they are encouraging by opening liquor shop, brothel, restaurant, meat-eating. So how you can expect a very nice civilization? That is not possible. We are suffering the consequence of our own degraded life. So how we can protect ourself from degradation? The *śāstra* is there. *Śāstra,* the scriptures, are there. Never mind whatever scriptures you have got—Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddha, or any. Every religion has got scripture. Just like the Christians have got Bible, the Muslims have got Koran, and Hindus, they have got *Vedas.* They should abide by the injunction of the *śāstra.* Lord Kṛṣṇa also recommends that you must follow the *śāstric* injunction. So Kṛṣṇa says, --- **[1976: Bhagavad-gītā 7.15,Arrival Address](spoken/1976/760903bg.vrn)** > So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means to follow the instruction of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu's instruction is this, to preach *kṛṣṇa-upadeśa.* And this is *kṛṣṇa upadeśa: na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ*. This is not our manufactured words; it is *kṛṣṇa-upadeśa,* that "Anyone who is not surrendered to Me, *duṣkṛtina,* he is immediately classified into four groups." What are they? *Duṣkṛtina, mūḍhāḥ, narādhamāḥ, māyayāpahṛta-jñānā, āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ.* So it is a very simple thing. Who is a *mūḍha?* If one does not surrender to Kṛṣṇa, if one does not understand what Kṛṣṇa, he is either *duṣkṛtina,* means sinful; *mūḍha,* rascal; *narādhamā,* lowest of the mankind; and *māyayāpahṛta-jñānā,* and his so-called education and degrees are useless because real knowledge is taken away from him. *Māyayāpahṛta-jñānā.* So there is no need of fighting by... But we can understand what are these people in general. They are within these four groups of men. > So we have to face them. Our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is facing these rascals, these *duṣkṛtina,* these *narādhamas,* and to request them to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. You cannot sit idly to show your gorgeousness in a secluded place, imitating Haridāsa Ṭhākura: Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa. No. You have to preach. That is the order of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. *Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā tāra ei deśa*. That is really following the Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Not to imitate Haridāsa Ṭhākura. That is not possible. You can... Even you do that very nicely, that is for your safety. Supposing that you are doing nicely, but that is for your safety. But one who is facing dangerous position for others' benefit, they are very quickly recognized by Kṛṣṇa. --- **[1976: Room Conversation](spoken/1976/760903r1.vrn)** > Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Thing is, the whole thing has to be completed in three weeks, because the American GBCs don't like... They think it is a very big loss financially. [Transl. If the devotees stay here more than three weeks then financially it is a big loss, because all the devotees...] Book distribution stops completely, [Transl. when they come here.] > Bhagatjī:* [Transl. I was also telling Haṁsadūta Svāmī that I don't want to take money from Prabhupāda. I was thinking what to do and what not to do because I wanted to buy this land. Three days ago I was talking about it. We have to acquire that land but should I do? I was worried. My brother is not giving me money. Do I have to leave Vṛndāvana? Within three days he finalised the deal.] --- ## Letters on September 3 *Letters from this day: 15* --- **[1968: Letter to Sri Krishna Prasad Bhargava](letters/1968/680903_sri_krishna_prasad_bhargava)** > It is not that the Society cannot pay for the Murtis, but it is my desire that Indian Vaisnavas should be energetic in cooperating with this Krishna Consciousness movement in the Western countries. I am already in correspondence with some friends in India, and they may be agreeable to contribute one pair, each of them, so in the meantime, if you kindly give me the exact price for similar Murtis (only with greater height, of at least 24 inches), I will appreciate this very much. --- **[1969: Letter to Gopala Krsna](letters/1969/690903_gopala_krsna)** > I thank you very much for your solemn assurance that you shall try to follow my teachings throughout your life. Regarding dress, I have already written to you that you can dress as smartly as possible to deal with the public, and dress is immaterial in Krishna Consciousness. --- **[1971: Letter to Ranadhir](letters/1971/710903_ranadhir)** > Also please offer my blessings to your wife and newly welcome daughter whom I have named Radhastami Dasi. --- **[1973: Letter to Madhudvisa](letters/1973/730903_madhudvisa)** > Your book selling report is very encouraging to me, so much so that I want to go there immediately. --- **[1974: Letter to Aksobhya](letters/1974/740903_aksobhya)** > You may introduce contests, but if the children and also the older devotees cannot pronounce Sanskrit correctly, it is all a useless waste of time. --- **[1974: Letter to Dina Bandhu](letters/1974/740903_dina_bandhu)** > Upon your recommendation I have accepted as my initiated disciples the following devotees and their names are: --- **[1974: Letter to Giriraja](letters/1974/740903_giriraja)** > It is very good that you are making life members daily locally instead of going to the city. As soon as they will see our activities, they will be very much pleased. --- **[1974: Letter to Ramesvara](letters/1974/740903_ramesvara)** > Yes, it is good that you have understood me about not investing any BBT monies in business. --- **[1974: Letter to Rsabhadeva](letters/1974/740903_rsabhadeva)** > Upon your recommendation I am accepting the following as my initiated disciples and their names are as follows: --- **[1975: Letter to Acyutananda](letters/1975/750903_acyutananda)** > They are very nice. You have done nicely. If you can get money, I have no objection to your getting a bus. --- **[1975: Letter to Dr. Jagadisa Bhardawaj](letters/1975/750903_dr._jagadisa_bhardawaj)** > I beg to thank you for your presentation of two books, *Krishna Lila he Lila Varnanani* and *Krishna Lila Vimarsa. --- **[1975: Letter to Hansadutta](letters/1975/750903_hansadutta)** > It is very nice. The printing is very good. Bengali types in a German country, is very good. They will take it. --- **[1975: Letter to Mahamsa](letters/1975/750903_mahamsa)** > Who has drawn this big scheme? And, where to get the money? I wanted simple life. What is the Nature Cure Hospital? The first scheme is how to get food grains. --- **[1975: Letter to Nalinikanta](letters/1975/750903_nalinikanta)** > You have been married for a year and a half but do not have any desire for children. --- **[1975: Letter to Sankara Pyne Mira Pyne](letters/1975/750903_sankara_pyne_mira_pyne)** > I am very pleased to know you are making progress in Krishna Consciousness and following the rules and regulations. ---