# August 13 ## Spoken on August 13 *Lectures from this day: 14 recordings* --- **[1968: Lecture at a School](spoken/1968/680813le.mon)** > Therefore people are very much anxious at the present moment for peace and tranquility over the world, but they do not know how that peace can be attained. Peace can be attained. The formula is there in the *Bhagavad-gītā: bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram*.* You can attain peace only when you understand that God is the proprietor of everything. > Just like a child is born so small from the mother's womb, and it changes body every second. Then he becomes a young child or a boy, then young man, then old man like me, and so on. In this way this changing, body changing, is going on. And the final change is called death. Death means... Just like the too much old garments cannot be used, similarly, this body is the garment of the soul. When it is..., no longer can be used, we have to accept another body. This is called transmigration of the soul. --- **[1971: Janmāṣṭamī Morning Lecture [Partially Recorded](spoken/1971/710813l1.lon)** > That means you receive the knowledge from the authority, not by experimental knowledge. Which is inconceivable, beyond your perception, beyond your imagination, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. They are trying to make experi... [break]...soul. The so-called scientists, they say, "We are trying." You can try on, but it is beyond your experience, beyond your knowledge. Your senses are all imperfect. You can... You cannot understand soul by experimental knowledge. You have to hear from the authority. Just like Kṛṣṇa says, > But you can think over. Just like Kṛṣṇa says, *dehino 'smin yathā dehe. Dehe* means "Within this body, there is the proprietor of the body." That is soul. Now, by experimenting, by taking in somebody's body—just like in medical science they dissect the body—you cannot find out. It is so small. Therefore you are saying, "There is no soul." But there is soul. From your experimental knowledge, you cannot understand where is that soul, but there is soul. --- **[1971: Janmāṣṭamī Lecture](spoken/1971/710813l2.lon)** > But what you understand about the *Vedas*? If you actually know *Vedas,* then you'll know Kṛṣṇa. If you do not know Kṛṣṇa, [chuckles] then you have no knowledge of *Vedas.* Because Kṛṣṇa says in the *Bhagavad-gītā, vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ* : by studies of *Vedas* He is to be understood. Unless one understands Kṛṣṇa, there is no use of studying *Vedas*; he does not get any profit—he simply wastes his time: *śrama eva hi kevalam*. These are the *śāstric*... > On the other hand, Kṛṣṇa says in the *Bhagavad-gītā* that *janma karma me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ* : "My *janma*..." Kṛṣṇa never says *janma-mṛtyu. Janma karma*. If somebody thinks that Kṛṣṇa took birth and He died also, that is mistake. That is the conclusion of the less-intelligent class of men. That is not a fact. Kṛṣṇa never dies. Why Kṛṣṇa? We also—part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa—we also never die. Death takes place, the change of body. But Kṛṣṇa has no material body; therefore even death, the death of the body, that is also not in Kṛṣṇa. --- **[1972: Room Conversation with Sister Mary](spoken/1972/720813r1.lon)** > Anyone who is defying the kingdom of God, he's a rascal. *Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ*. Narādhamāḥ* is lowest of the mankind. God consciousness is meant for human beings, and if a person defies God, then he's the lowest of the mankind. *Māyayāpahṛta-jñānā:* his knowledge has been plundered by the illusory energy. He may be academically a very big title holder, but if he's not God conscious, then his knowledge has been taken away. Real knowledge has been taken away. *Asuriṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ.* These are the symptoms of the atheist class of men. > Just like I am drinking water. In the taste of the water I'll see God. God says, Kṛṣṇa says, "I am the taste of the water." And actually, that taste cannot be created by man. The taste in the water, that is God's gift. So as soon as I taste the water, immediately I should remember, "Oh, here is God." --- **[1973: Bhagavad-gītā 13.5](spoken/1973/730813bg.par)** > So actually, that is the position. Forty years ago he said. So the Europe and America, they have enough of material enjoyment. Meat-eating, wine, woman—they have got sufficient. So they are not very much interested with all these things, although, because they have no other alternative for enjoyment, so they are enjoying or trying to satisfy them. But that is not giving them real satisfaction. That's a fact. This wine, woman and meat-eating, that is not giving them any more satisfaction. But because they have no other alternative, what they can do? *Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām*, chewing the chewed, that's all. It is already chewed, it is already tasted, but there is no other alternative; therefore they are tasting the same thing this way and that way. > Therefore Parīkṣit Mahārāja said, *nirvṛtta-tarṣaiḥ. Tarṣaiḥ. Tṛṣṇa. Tṛṣṇa* means hankering. Hankering. Just like if you are thirsty, you feel, "Where is water? Where is water? Where is water?" That is called *tṛṣṇa.* So *nirvṛtta-tarṣaiḥ* means one who has finished all hankering for material enjoyment. He's called *nirvṛtta-tṛṣṇa. Nirvṛtta* means finished, and *tṛṣṇa* means hankering. The same thing is described in the *Śrīmad..., Bhagavad-gītā: brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati*. Kāṅkṣati. Kāṅkṣati* means if I hanker, that means still I am hungry or thirsty. But there is a position, *brahma-bhūta* position, by *brahma-jijñāsā,* that we can get relief of these two activities, hankering and lamenting. --- **[1973: Room Conversation With Sanskrit Professor](spoken/1973/730813r1.par)** > You are Brahman. Just realize *ahaṁ brahmāsmi.*" This is *para-upakāra.* So we are doing that. We are awakening everyone. *Uttiṣṭhata jāgrata prāpya-varān nibodhata* [Kaṭha Upaniṣad* 1.3.14]: "You have got now human being form of life. Now get up and make your life successful by spiritual realization." This is our message. *Sarve sukhino bhavantu.* By spiritual realization everyone will become happy. Without spiritual realization, nobody can become happy. This is our mission. > "It is mentioned in *Mahābhārata* that is the inhabitants of the province of the name Pulinda. This country was conquered by Bhīmasena and Sahadeva. The Greeks are known as Pulindas, and it is mentioned in the *Vana-parva* of *Mahābhārata* that the non-Vedic race of this part of the world would rule over the world. This Pulinda province was also one of the provinces of Bhārata, and the inhabitants were classified amongst the *kṣatriya* kings. But later on, due to their giving up the brahminical culture, they were mentioned as *mlecchas,* just as those who are not followers of the Islamic culture are called *kafirs,* and those who are not followers of the Christian culture are called heathens. --- **[1973: Room Conversation with Rosicrucians](spoken/1973/730813r2.par)** >Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He has got His form, He has got His place, He has got His name, He has got His pastimes, and we want to enter in that kingdom. --- **[1973: Discussion about Guru Mahārāj-jī](spoken/1973/730813r3.par)** > So we should not allow this man to grow popularity. We must make propaganda wherever meeting is there. "I can kick on the face of this God. I can urine on the face of..." What can he do? Like that. Let him come. If he's God, then let him kill me by his power. When I go to kick on his face, let him stop me. Then I shall accept that he's God. So why don't you do that? He's saying "God." You just kick on his face, if he can do something. In this way, make some counterpropaganda. If we allow him to go on, then so many people falsely being misled. > We do not discuss this point, but actually this is the fact. He was empowered man, that we can understand. But we cannot accept him God. In our history, God is never killed; God kills others. That we have got evidence. And ordinary men, they took him and crucified, and nobody, other, of the opposite party was killed. So that makes a little difference. So far son of God, that we accept. Everyone is son of God. We accept him *śaktyāveśa avatāra,* a living entity especially powered from God. That we can accept. So son of God, we can accept. That is another thing. --- **[1973: Room Conversation With French Nun](spoken/1973/730813r4.par)** > > tat te 'nukampāṁ susamīkṣamāṇo > > bhuñjāna evātma-kṛtaṁ vipākam > > hṛd-vāg-vapurbhir vidadhan namas te > > jīveta yo mukti-pade sa dāya-bhāk > > > So mysticism is not understandable by common man. It requires a special qualification. Just like to understand, it is also mysticism—understand, to understand God. This is also mystic. It is not understandable by ordinary man. --- **[1974: Bhagavad-gītā 7.7](spoken/1974/740813bg.vrn)** > That thing which is *sarvam idaṁ tatam,* spread all over the body as light, illumination... So I am *ātmā,* you are *ātmā.* So your illumination, consciousness, is spread all over the body. Therefore so long I am in this body, I feel pains and pleasure because the consciousness is spread. In the same way... As Kṛṣṇa says, He's the Supreme Soul. I am individual, very, very minute, small particle, and Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Whole. So as I am controlling over this body, so where is the difficulty? Kṛṣṇa is controlling over the whole universe. Where is the difficulty? There is no difficulty. But we'll not understand. That is the difficulty. Here it is clearly said, *mayi sarvam idaṁ protaṁ sūtre maṇi-gaṇā iva.* There is no difficulty. In another place also, Kṛṣṇa says, *mayā tatam idaṁ sarvam. Mayā.* The original is person, *mayā, aham. Mayā.* So "by Me." *Sarvam idaṁ tatam.* How? That is already explained: by the two energies, the spiritual energy and the material energy, *parā* and *aparā-prakṛti.* That is expanded all over the universe, creation. So where is the difficulty? *Mayā tatam idaṁ sarvam.* Anything, that is Kṛṣṇa's energy. Therefore those who are devotee, Vaiṣṇava, they can understand that everything is Kṛṣṇa's. I am also Kṛṣṇa's energy; you are also Kṛṣṇa's energy, *jīva-bhūtaḥ. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām, jīva-bhūtām*. *We are *parā-prakṛti,* all of us, living entities, part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. > There is controversy... In another place Kṛṣṇa says, *aham ādir hi devānām*. He is the origin of all demigods. The principal demigods are Viṣṇu and Maheśvara and... Maheśvara means Lord Śiva. And Brahmā. Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara. So Kṛṣṇa is the origin of Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara. They are *guṇa-avatāra.* For maintaining this material world... The material world is composed of three *guṇas: sattva, raja, tama.* So the director of the *sattva-guṇa* department is Lord Viṣṇu, and the director of the *rajo-guṇa* department is Lord Brahmā, and the director of the *tamo-guṇa* department is Lord Śiva. Origin is Kṛṣṇa. Therefore in the *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam* it is concluded, after describing all the incarnation of God, different incarnation, the conclusion is made, *ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam* : --- **[1974: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.5.32](spoken/1974/740813sb.vrn)** > Therefore Vaiṣṇava never accepts *sāyujya-mukti,* to become one with the Supreme, because Vaiṣṇava knows that impersonal advancement is risky. They know it perfectly. Therefore a Vaiṣṇava never... Vaiṣṇava is not anxious for any kind of *mukti. Dīyamānaṁ na gṛhṇanti*. They don't want... Especially Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas, they don't want *mukti.* They are happy wherever they are existing. If they get the chance of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa *mantra,* that is perfection of life. They don't want anything more. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. We should not imitate, but the position is like that. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He was not at all afraid of this material world. He was very cautious. A spiritualist, a devotee, a Kṛṣṇa conscious person, should be very cautious. But not afraid to meet any dangerous position, but must be cautious—cautious in this way: that he may not fall down again under the clutches of *māyā.* This should be..., care should be taken. > That is the resultant action. If one is polluted, if he comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, or Kṛṣṇa's pure devotee, he or she will be purified. Kṛṣṇa is never allured, neither Kṛṣṇa is become a victim of anything material. Kṛṣṇa's position is different. That is stated in the *Īśopaniṣad. Apāpa-viddham.* Kṛṣṇa is never afflicted by any kind of contamination. He is *pūrṇaḥ śuddho nitya-muktaḥ.* Similarly, those who are advanced devotees, they are not allured. But the result is that one who comes to allure a devotee or one who comes to allure Kṛṣṇa, he or she becomes purified. He or she. *Kamāt krodhād bhayāt.* Some way or other, if one comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, then he becomes purified. *Tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya*. Apparently it appears that Kṛṣṇa is dancing with the young girls, dead of night. But it is not that Kṛṣṇa is contaminated. They become purified. On the... Actually, they are eternal associates of Kṛṣṇa, the *gopīs.* They are not ordinary women. There are all description in the *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.* They were dancing in their spiritual body, not in the material body. They were dancing in their spiritual body. Their spiritual [material] body was lying down with their husband. These are..., these descriptions are there in the *Bhāgavatam.* So *gopīs' līlā* is not material. So there was no question of contamination. But materially this kind of activities, to dance at dead of night with young girl, that is not permitted—with other's wife. You can dance with your own wife, but you cannot do that. That is sinful. --- **[1975: Lecture](spoken/1975/750813mw.lon)** --- **[1975: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.55](spoken/1975/750813sb.lon)** > So they have come to this material world. *Kṛṣṇa bhuliyā jīva bhoga vāñchā kare* [*Prema-vivarta*]. Means *puruṣa* is *bhoktā. Bhoktāraṁ.* Kṛṣṇa is actually *bhoktā. Bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasām*.* So we are imitating Kṛṣṇa. This is our position. Everyone is trying to become Kṛṣṇa. The Māyāvādīs, although they have undergone penances, austerities—very strictly they follow the principles of spiritual life—but because they are under *māyā,* at the end they are thinking that "I am God, *puruṣa*," the same disease, *puruṣa. Puruṣa* means *bhoktā.* That "I am Kṛṣṇa..." *Bhoktāraṁ yajña*... And even after advancing so much by austerities, penances, following regulative principle, the *māyā* is so strong that still, he is under this impression that "I am *puruṣa*." Not only ordinary *puruṣa,* but the Supreme *puruṣa,* as Kṛṣṇa is described in the *Bhagavad-gītā. Paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān, puruṣam śāśvata* : "You are *puruṣa*." So *māyā* is so strong that after being kicked so many lives, life after life, still he is thinking, "I am *puruṣa.* I am enjoyer." This is the disease. > Bhakta* means *anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam* [Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu*1.1.11].* The *bhakta* has nothing to do with this *jñāna* and *karma. Jñāna* means to understand. So you understand simply that "I am part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead," then your *jñāna* is full. Your knowledge is full. These two words, that "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and I am Kṛṣṇa's part and parcel," if we realize these things only, then our *jñāna,* our knowledge, is perfect. And then, as soon as knowledge is perfect, then next is *vairāgya. Jñāna-vairāgya-yuktayā*. Two things required. But if you remain in the *jñāna* platform, do not come to the actual spiritual platform, then *śrama eva hi kevalam*. --- **[1976: Arrival Conversation in Car and at Temple](spoken/1976/760813ar.bom)** >....Prema se kaha śrīkṛṣṇa caitanya prabhu nityānanda śrīadvaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi gaura bhakta vṛnda ki jaya. Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa gopa gopīnātha śyāmakuṇḍa rādhākuṇḍ giri govardhana ki jaya. Vṛndāvana dhāma ki jaya. Navadvīpa dhāma ki jaya. Gaṅgā māyī ki jaya. Yamuna māyī ki jaya. Tulasī devī ki jaya. Bhakti devī ki jaya. Sāmaveta bhaktavṛnda ki jaya.* All glories to the assembled devotees. Thank you very much. > This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's... And people are hankering after receiving this instruction. Unfortunately, the so-called *svāmīs, yogīs,* they are going... Or even politicians, they are not presenting *Bhagavad-gītā* as it is. Anyway, so long I live I shall go on struggling like this. That's all. --- ## Letters on August 13 *Letters from this day: 11* --- **[1969: Letter to Jayagovinda](letters/1969/690813_jayagovinda)** > Regarding your accepting a job in the Graphics profession, I think you can accept this job because it is paying, as well as you can get experience in the profession. --- **[1969: Letter to Syamasundara](letters/1969/690813_syamasundara)** > When I first heard that the wheels of the car collapsed it was so great a shock to me that the whole day I was sick and morose, and now after receiving this letter and your pictures I am very much enlivened. --- **[1971: Letter to Atreya Rsi](letters/1971/710813_atreya_rsi)** > So far your service is concerned, you should understand that Krishna's service is absolute. --- **[1971: Letter to Madhudvisa](letters/1971/710813_madhudvisa)** > Enclosed please find one letter from Durdaivanasana Das (Mr. He has asked me to help his son, so you can call this boy as advised by Mr. --- **[1971: Letter to Suresh Candra](letters/1971/710813_suresh_candra)** > I am glad to learn that you had contact with my disciple Vaikunthanatha and his wife Saradia Devi there in Guyana. --- **[1974: Letter to Amsu](letters/1974/740813_amsu)** > Regarding the worship of our Gaura Nitai by women pujaris, we worship Lord Caitanya in His householder life when He was with His wife, and not as a sannyasi. --- **[1974: Letter to Caru](letters/1974/740813_caru)** > I am forwarding your letter to Madhudvisa Swami for necessary action. The idea is very good. You do it as you see fit. Hope this letter meets you in good health. --- **[1974: Letter to Madhudvisa](letters/1974/740813_madhudvisa)** > Please find a letter enclosed from Caru das which I am forwarding to you for necessary action. --- **[1974: Letter to Ramesvara](letters/1974/740813_ramesvara)** > I understand from your letter that you have loaned Hong Kong center $1500 for printing Chinese edition of Krsna Reservoir of Pleasure. --- **[1974: Letter to Tamala Krsna](letters/1974/740813_tamala_krsna)** > Regarding the society's leaders emphasizing business, you should understand what is the meaning of business. Preaching needs financial help, otherwise, we have no need for business. --- **[1974: Letter to Uttamasloka](letters/1974/740813_uttamasloka)** > Thank you for your report of the Toronto activities. Regarding the initiations, I think that everyone has been initiated in New Vrndavana recently. ---