# August 5 *Lectures from this day: 13 recordings* --- **[[spoken/660805bg.ny|Bg 4.19 — August 5, 1966, New York]]** **Prabhupāda:** > yasya sarve samārambhāḥ > kāma-saṅkalpa-varjitāḥ > jñānāgni-dagdha-karmāṇaṁ > tam āhuḥ paṇḍitaṁ budhāḥ > [[bg/4/19|[Bg. 4.19] ]] Now, how one can work without any lust? This process is being described by Śrī Kṛṣṇa to Arjuna. In our last meeting we have discussed the previous verse, that we have to... We may begin any gorgeous task—it doesn't matter—but we have to work in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, not for sense gratification. That will make us free from the interaction of the activities. So long we are attached to work for sense gratification, so long we shall be under the obligation of reaction. --- **[[spoken/710805pc.lon|Temple Press Conference — August 5, 1971, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** Kṛṣṇa's message to awaken man's original consciousness. At the present moment we have got designated consciousness. I am thinking, "I am Indian," you are thinking Englishman, another is thinking American. But actually we are neither American nor Indian nor any that sort of designation. We are part and parcel of God. That is our real identification. If we come to that consciousness, then all the problems of the world will be solved. Now, due to our designated consciousness, we are thinking, "You are different from me; I am different from you," but if we come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then we shall know that we are one, the same spirit soul, maybe in different dress. That is the explanation given in *Bhagavad-gītā.* Just like we are all human being, gentlemen, ladies. Maybe in different dress, but our aims and objects are the one and the same. So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is purificatory process. *Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam* [[cc/madhya/19/170|[Cc. Madhya 19.170] ]]. To make people free from all designation. *Tat-paratvena nirmalam:* and in Kṛṣṇa consciousness they become purified. And when they're purified, their activities by purified senses make them perfect. That is the ideal perfection of human life. --- **[[spoken/730805bg.lon|Bg 2.4-5 — August 5, 1973, London]]** "It is better to live in this world by begging than to live at the cost of the lives of great souls who are my teachers. Even though they are avaricious, they are nonetheless superiors. If they are killed, our spoils will be tainted with blood." --- **[[spoken/730805r1.lon|Room Conversation with George Harrison & the Shankars — August 5, 1973, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** > ātmānaṁ sarvato rakṣet > tato dharmaṁ tato dhanam > ātmānaṁ vikṛti sati > tato kutaṁ tato dharmam *Ātmā* means the body, mind or soul. *Ātmā.* All these can be designated as *ātmā.* Those who are in bodily concept of life, for them *ātmā* means this body. Those who are in mental concept of life—somebody, they think the mind is the soul—so for them, *ātmā* means mind. And those who are actually in knowledge, the *ātmā* means the soul. In the *śāstra* there says that either of these, *ātmānaṁ sarvato rakṣet,* you must first take care of, of this *ātmā.* Then *tato dharma:* then you must take care of your religious principles. *Ātmānaṁ sarvato rakṣet tato dharmaṁ tato dhanam.* Then you try to protect your money. [laughter] Because *ātmānaṁ vikṛti sati,* if your *ātmā* is in disturbed condition, *tato dharmaṁ tato dhanam,* then where you keep your religion and money? So *ātmānaṁ sarvato rakṣet.* --- **[[spoken/730805r2.lon|Room Conversation with Professor Lewcock and other guest — August 5, 1973, London]]** **Revatīnandana:** Sothis is our spiritual master, His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda. This is Professor Ronald Lewcock from Cambridge University, and I don't... [break] name. **Prabhupāda:** What is that problem? Live husband and wife together. That's all. In Kṛṣṇa consciousness. And so far I know, he is one of my best students—Śivānanda. Very sincere boy, very devoted. I think you are fortunate to have such devotee husband. You should not neglect. According to Vedic civilization, when there is some disagreement between husband and wife, it is not taken very seriously. Professor...? --- **[[spoken/740805bg.vrn|Bg 4.13 — August 5, 1974, Vṛndāvana]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...where is, I don't exactly... We have heard from authorities. There is no question of inquiring. What is the... Even if you don't quote, you can assert firmly that everyone is a *śūdra.* How? Now, *guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ* [[bg/4/13|[Bg. 4.13] ]]. Bhagavad-gītā* says this classification is made, *guṇa-karma.* So what is the *karma* at the present moment? They're seeking service. The so-called education means seeking service, master. *Paricaryātmakaṁ karma śūdra-karma svabhāva-jam* [[bg/18/44|[Bg. 18.44] ]]. This is *śāstra.* Anyone who is attached to give service to others or, without giving service to others, he cannot live, that is he's *śūdra.* He has no independent existence. Just like I was showing, the dog. Unemployed. Lean and thin and... Because he has no master. The same dog, when he has got a master, he'll be stout and strong, and he'll, as soon as you..., "*Owf! Owf! Bow!* [laughter] I have got my master." So this is *śūdra. Śūdra* is compared with the dog. A dog is never happy without a master. Then it is a street dog. That is the difference between household dog and a street dog. So in this age, practically you see, unless there is employment, he's a street dog. That is the proof that everyone is a *śūdra.* That is the proof. **Prabhupāda:** No. He'll die of starvation, he'll not accept any employment. That is *brāhmaṇa. Kṣatriya* also that, and *vaiśya* also. Only *śūdra.* A *vaiśya* will find out some business. He'll find out some business. So there is a practical story. One Mr. Nandi, long, long ago, in the Calcutta, he went to some friend, that "If you can give me a little capital, I can start some business." So he said, "You are *vaiśya*? Mercantile?" "Yes." "Oh, you are asking money from me? Money's on the street. You can find out." So he said, "I don't find." "You don't find? What is that?" "That, that is a dead mouse." "That is your capital." Just see. So in those days, plague in Calcutta, plague was going on. So Municipal declaration was any dead mouse brought to the Municipal office, he'll be paid two annas. So he took that dead body of the mouse and took to the Municipal office; he was paid two annas. So he purchased some rotten betel nuts with two annas, and washed it and sold it at four annas or five annas. In this way, again, again, again, that man became so rich man. One of their family member was our Godbrother. Nandi family. That Nandi family still, they have got four hundred, five hundred men to eat daily. A big, aristocratic family. And their family's regulation is as soon as one son or daughter is born, five thousand rupees deposited in the bank, and at the time of his marriage, that five thousand rupees with interest, he can take it. Otherwise there is no more share in the capital. And everyone who lives in the family, he gets eating and shelter. This is their... But the original, I mean to say, establisher of this family, Nandi, he started his business with a red..., a dead rat, or mouse. --- **[[spoken/740805r1.vrn|Room Conversation — August 5, 1974, Vṛndāvana]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...the business of the representative of Kṛṣṇa to push the nipple.[?] Because they know what is the necessity. The whole world is upset for want of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. This is the necessity. It is not a, I mean to say, whimsical sporting. It is the necessity. But they do not know. It is a very responsible task. That is called *prayojana.* Is it clear? What do you think? Huh? **Prabhupāda:** They do not know. The scientists, they do not know what is the necessity. [laughs] Do they know? Do you think, all the scientists, do they know? **Prabhupāda:** They think that, that by gratifying senses... Therefore they are having the same sex at home, again going to the naked dance. They think, "This thing will be able to give me happiness." But that is not giving, actually. Then they become mad. --- **[[spoken/740805sb.vrn|SB 1.5.24 — August 5, 1974, Vṛndāvana]]** **Nitāi:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [devotees repeat] [leads chanting of verse, etc.] [devotees have a difficult time following a line at a time; Prabhupāda interrupts chanting to instruct Nit**ā**i to separate the words] Separate? [continues leading chanting] --- **[[spoken/750805mw.det|Morning Walk — August 5, 1975, Detroit]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...birds who eat monkey. You know that? I have seen in Los Angeles zoo, monkey-eating bird. They capture the monkey by the neck and drop it. And when it falls down it dies, and they eat them. And I have seen one statue in the Central Park. They are catching goats—eagle. And there are big eagles, they catch up elephant. [break] **Satsvarūpa:** Just some person who wants to glorify himself. Dudder.[?] [break] A boy will write his name and his girlfriend's name on some tree. **Brahmānanda:** So their love will live as long as the tree. Maybe they will also become trees. [break] --- **[[spoken/750805sb.det|SB 6.1.52 — August 5, 1975, Detroit]]** **Nitāi:** "The foolish embodied living entity, inadept at controlling his senses and mind, although he does not desire to, he is forced to act by the different influences of the modes of material nature. He is just like the silkworm, who by the thread created from his own saliva creates a cocoon and becomes encaged in it without any possibility of getting out. The living entity has similarly engaged himself in a network of his own different fruitive activities and cannot find a way to get out of it. In that condition, he is always bewildered and repeatedly dies." **Prabhupāda:** > dehy ajño 'jita-ṣaḍ-vargo > necchan karmāṇi kāryate > kośakāra ivātmānaṁ > karmaṇācchādya muhyati > [[sb/6/1/52|[SB. 6.1.52] ]] This is the position of all of us living entities. Because we cannot control the mind and the senses, especially *karmendriya*—the eyes, the ear, the tongue, the touch, the *udara upastha... Pāṇi, pāda, pāyu, udara, upastha,* these five *karmendriya. Pāṇi* means hand, *pāyu* means rectum and *pāda* means leg. *Udara* means belly, and *upastha* means genital. And these are *karmendriya,* and mind... So mind dictates, "Oh, let me see this beautiful thing"—immediately eyes act. "Let me hear this sweet song"—immediately ear is engaged. So of all, the *jihvā,* the tongue, is very strong. Therefore Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has sung, *tā'ra madhye jihvā ati, lobhamaya sudurmati*. [*Gītāvalī, Prasāda-sevāya* 1.1]. Amongst all the senses, the tongue, taste, it is very strong. In your country especially, for the tongue so many advertisement: this wine, that wine, varieties of cigarettes, restaurants, roasted beef, so many things, just attracting the tongue, "Please come here. Please come here and be entangled." This advertisement. So one has to control the tongue. *Tā'ra madhye jihvā ati, lobhamaya sudurmati.* This is very secret science, that you have to clear out your path of liberation by controlling the tongue. Then other things will be controlled, the straight line: tongue, then belly, then genital. Therefore in our society we have restricted the tongue: "Don't eat meat. Don't take intoxication." And then, the straight line: "No free use of the genital, illicit sex." These things are required if you want to be free from this material entanglement. This is called *tapasya.* --- **[[spoken/760805bg.nmr|Bg 15.15 — August 5, 1976, New Māyāpur]]** [break] [translated throughout by Jayāntakṛd] Knowledge given by Paramātmā from within the core of the heart is explained by the modern scientist as intuition. They do not know wherefrom the intuition is coming. And that is coming from God. Therefore it is stated *mattaḥ, mattaḥ,* "from Me," *smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca.* A small cub, dog, it has not opened the eyes, but still, immediately after birth it is seeking the nipples of the mother. So wherefrom the knowledge comes? From his within. And that is from God. The other day I explained, *Vedas* means just like this Dictaphone machine is manufactured along with one literature is also compiled, so customers, they are given the delivery of the machine as well as the literature how to use it. That is the *Vedas.* Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that *vedānta-kṛt,* "I am the compiler of the *Vedas.*" Because if He does not give the literature, then how he will use the machine? The manufacturer of the machine, he knows how to use it, what for it is, how to manipulate it. Everything is there. The Vedic knowledge means that. We have come to this material world. So just like we have purchased this machine for some enjoyment, similarly, we are fallen down to this material world for some material pleasure. So Kṛṣṇa has given, God has given, a literature. If you'll be guided by the literature, that, your propensity to enjoy this material world, will be fulfilled, at the same time you'll again be able to go back home, back to Godhead. So now you discuss this point, that why we have come to this material world, what is the purpose. These things are mentioned in the *Vedas. Vedas* gives you knowledge about your relationship with God. That is the first knowledge. And then, according to that relationship, if you act, then you are rightly directed, and ultimately the goal is to go back home, back to Godhead. So discuss on this point if you have anyone any doubt, any question. **Devotee:** I have a question, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Sometimes we try to meditate on Kṛṣṇa, when we chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, sinful memory from our past life is coming. How is this to be understood that Kṛṣṇa says, "From Me the memory comes." --- **[[spoken/760805r1.nmr|Room Conversation with Professor Francois Chenique — August 5, 1976, New Māyāpur]]** **Yogeśvara:** Professor Chenique teaches a course in *Bhagavad-gītā* at the University, and he is also doing translations of Śaṅkarācārya and teaches for the Federation of Yoga. He considers himself a Christian Advaitist. [break] ...some questions regarding the publications in French. For example, on the front of *Back to Godhead* magazine, in the English edition and other language editions, they have kept the phrase "Godhead is light, darkness is nescience. Where there is Godhead there is no nescience." Now in French it is difficult to translate that. There is no word *Godhead.* And if you say "God is light," in French it sounds very impersonalist. **Yogeśvara:** In French, *Dieu est lumiere,* "God is light." Many groups say like that. We use the word Godhead, and that distinguishes us from the other groups. Now, is the phrase very important, and do you want us to keep it on the front of the magazine? It should be there. **Prabhupāda:** *Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ* [Bs. 5.1]. Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ. Īśvara,* more or less everyone, but *īśvaraḥ paramaḥ,* that is Godhead. The Māyāvādīs, they do not distinguish between one *īśvara* to another *īśvara.* That may be on the ordinary level, but there is *parama īśvara.* --- **[[spoken/760805r2.nmr|Meeting with Bruno Gnan, Italian Printer — August 5, 1976, New Māyāpur]]** **Bhagavān:** He has worked very... He's been trying very hard to get the *Kṛṣṇa* book out, but he left a little too early. **Bhagavān:** [to translator] Tell him that Prabhupāda was remarking how nice the Dutch *Bhagavad-gītā* was. **Translator:** He's very happy to meet you, he says. He wasn't expecting it. He had many questions to ask you, a few questions, but he saw that you were tired today, so... --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/pre-1966/580805_ratanshi_morarji_khatau.md|Letter to Ratanshi Morarji Khatau, 1958]] - [[../../letters/1969/690805_krsna_dasa.md|Letter to Krsna Dasa, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690805_satsvarupa.md|Letter to Satsvarupa, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690805_sri_k.l._goswami.md|Letter to Sri K.L. Goswami, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690805_yamuna.md|Letter to Yamuna, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1970/700805_macmillan_company.md|Letter to Macmillan Company, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700805_subhadra.md|Letter to Subhadra, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1971/710805_bhavananda.md|Letter to Bhavananda, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/710805_karandhara.md|Letter to Karandhara, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/710805_sri_govinda.md|Letter to Sri Govinda, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1972/720805_acyutananda.md|Letter to Acyutananda, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720805_bali-mardana.md|Letter to Bali-Mardana, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720805_niranjana.md|Letter to Niranjana, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720805_pusta_krsna.md|Letter to Pusta Krsna, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1973/730805_manager_of_central_bank_of_india.md|Letter to Manager Of Central Bank Of India, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1974/740805_amogha.md|Letter to Amogha, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1976/760805_ramesvara.md|Letter to Ramesvara, 1976]]