# August 5 ## Spoken on August 5 *Lectures from this day: 14 recordings* --- **[1966: Bhagavad-gītā 4.19–22](spoken/1966/660805bg.ny.md)** > Now, Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Lord, He is not hungry. He is not hungry that I shall supply Him foodstuff, and therefore He will be maintained. It is not like that. But still, Kṛṣṇa says that *patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati:* "Any devotee, if he offers Me *patram...*" *Patram* means leaf. *Puṣpam* means flower. *Patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalam. Phalam* means fruit. *Patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyam. Toyam* means milk or water. Generally, it is meant water. > In this way there are so many processes, unintentionally or intentionally we have to kill. But they are taken into account; they are also sin. According to strict Vedic literature, if you kill even a bug, oh, you are sinful. You cannot kill even a bug. These are mentioned in the scriptures. Now, how we can avoid? How we can avoid? That is this... I do not like to kill, but sometimes unintentionally they are killed. Therefore, according to Vedic literature, there are five kinds of *yajña* performed to get oneself free from this unintentional killing of animals. --- **[1971: Lecture Engagement](spoken/1971/710805le.lon)** > In this way there is a disciplic succession. Kṛṣṇa says formerly, because the kings were the head of the state or head of the citizens, they were taught Vedic culture so that they can rule over the citizens, or the subjects, very nicely. If the king is all right... There is a proverb in India that... That is the Vedic idea: if the king is ideal, then the whole state is happy. Therefore sometimes in India they hanker after *rāma-rājya*. There is a party in India, political party, they are called *Rāma-Rājya *Party. They want to establish *rāma-rājya* again, as there are many political parties. > So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is based on the Vedic *śāstra*. In the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is said, *vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyo* : by studies of all *Vedas,* one has to come to the conclusion that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So what is our relationship with Kṛṣṇa, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. First of all we must know what is our relationship with Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa says that *mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ* : "All the living entities, they are My parts and parcels." --- **[1971: Temple Press Conference](spoken/1971/710805pc.lon)** > So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is purificatory process. *Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam*. To make people free from all designation. *Tat-paratvena nirmalam:* and in Kṛṣṇa consciousness they become purified. And when they're purified, their activities by purified senses make them perfect. That is the ideal perfection of human life. > So the thing is that they want to be cheated; therefore cheaters come. They don't want to undergo some austerity. Human life is meant for austerity. But they are not prepared to undergo austerity. Suppose some cheaters come. They say, "Oh, no austerity. Whatever you like, you do. You simply pay me and I'll give you some particular *mantra,* and you become God within six months." [laughter] And that is going on. So you want to be..., if people want to be cheated like that, the cheaters will come. --- **[1973: Bhagavad-gītā 2.4–5](spoken/1973/730805bg.lon)** > Therefore Kṛṣṇa... Not only He, but everyone who is in the material world is enemy of Kṛṣṇa. Everyone. Because they want to be competitor of Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa says that *bhoktāram:* "I am the supreme enjoyer." *Sarva-loka-maheśvaram : "I am the Supreme proprietor." > Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has said that *viṣayīra anna khāile malina haya mana* : such great personalities became darkened because they took money from them, *anna.* If I am provided by somebody who is too much materialist, then that will affect me. I will become also materialist. I will also become materialist. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu has warned that "Those who are *viṣayī,* those who are not devotees, do not accept anything from them, because it will," I mean to say, "make your mind unclean." --- **[1973: Room Conversation with George Harrison & the Shankars](spoken/1973/730805r1.lon)** > Śyāmasundara: And it says, "Dear Professor Zaehner," and Prabhupāda actually wrote the letter, but Satsvarūpa, his secretary, signed it. It says, "I am writing in response to your recent address to the World Congress of Faiths, which was attended by several of our members and which was subsequently reported in the *Observer,* 22nd July 1973, under the title 'The Logic of Charles Manson.' In your speech you have accused Kṛṣṇa, the speaker of the Vedic text *Bhagavad-gītā,* as immoral. Exactly how you have tried to substantiate that Kṛṣṇa is the teacher of an immoral and amoral dangerous doctrine is a matter which can be discussed another time. But I wish to simply point out to you that having accused Kṛṣṇa, you have as such fallen into a position of being very strongly accused yourself by Lord Kṛṣṇa Himself. As He has stated in the *Bhagavad-gītā*..." > "Because He is absolute, whatever Kṛṣṇa does is the highest morality and works factually for everyone's ultimate happiness and well-being. Kṛṣṇa's pastimes are hardly understandable to the nondevotee, that these are the authorized descriptions of the Vedic literature. The people in general should be warned of your position so that you will not mislead them by misinterpretation. They should not be baffled by your outward appearance as a great scholar. If we consult those who are truly authorities, the great *ācāryas,* we understand your position is very unfavorable and can only be relieved by your attempting to publicly rectify accusations so foolishly made against the name and words of Lord Kṛṣṇa in *Bhagavad-gītā*. Yours sincerely, Satsvarūpa." Also, that Alistair Hardy wrote a nice letter. --- **[1973: Room Conversation with Professor Lewcock from Cambridge University and Others](spoken/1973/730805r2.lon)** > So our answer is *bhavauṣadhi.* By chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa *mantra,* everything—*ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam*, everything becomes clear. That is the cha... This is the medicine, that a clear's all doubts: *ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanaṁ bhava-mahā-dāvāgni-nirvāpaṇaṁ*. And soon as all doubts are cleared, the blazing fire of material existence is extinguished. Just like the physician: unless you know that "Whatever medicine the physician will give, I will accept," then what is the use of going there? When the physician prescribes something, and if you say, "No, I don't like this," [laughter] then what is the use of going there? Therefore the first is that "I am going to this physician. Whatever prescription he will give, I will accept." Then you can go to the physician. > Although the payment was there, he said it was impossible. "Therefore I went away." "Therefore I went away." Yes. He will whole day work, pull on the rickshaw, and still he will not accept to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. This is the position. The same example: if you tell the hog that "Why you are rotting in this way? Come on, I shall give you daily *halavā,*" "No, sir. I cannot go. I have got so much responsibility." Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has said, *ei rupe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva* : only the fortunate man can get to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. *Kona bhāgyavān jīva. Bhāgyavān* means "fortunate." --- **[1974: Conversation on Bhagavad-gītā 4.13](spoken/1974/740805bg.vrn)** > "...as your production is there, give me twenty-five percent. I'll give you protection." That is *kṣatriya* business. *Brāhmaṇa's* business: teaching. And *vaiśya:* till the field, agriculture, get your food. Now, where is dependence? Only a *śūdra,* he cannot take up all these things. "Give me some service, sir. Give me some service." In the modern education, they... The more and more industries increasing, there *śūdras* are being trained up, technology. Technology means he must get some service; otherwise, useless. Simple life, teaching, *brāhmaṇa*; and *kṣatriya,* give protection; and *vaiśya,* till the ground. This is... Where is the question of scarcity? The scarcity is that nobody's doing his real duty. *Guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ*. > [Hindi] He was punishable. It was the duty of the government to see that "You are posing yourself as *brāhmaṇa.* Whether you are doing the duty of a *brāhmaṇa*?" If he's not doing, then he was punished. Therefore nobody was unemployed. A *brāhmaṇa* is doing his duty, *kṣatriya's* doing his duty, *vaiśya* his duty. We get this information from Mahārāja Pṛthu's kingdom. He, he was very strict, that whether one is doing his duty. *Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ*. If the *brāhmaṇa* is doing his duty, the *kṣatriya* is doing his duty and *vaiśya* is doing his duty, then where is the unemployment? And it is the duty of the government to see that everyone is doing his duty. --- **[1974: Room Conversation](spoken/1974/740805r1.vrn)** > So therefore it is advised that *tṛpyanti neha kṛpanā bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ.* By itching, by satisfying the senses, itching sensation, their troubles and miserable condition increasing. That they do not know. Increasing. *Tṛpyanti neha kṛpanā bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ. Bahu* means much; *duḥkha* means miserable condition. Therefore one who is sensible: *kaṇḍūtivan manasijaṁ viṣaheta dhīraḥ.* The *dhīra,* one is sober, he understands, "What I am doing? I am simply trying to eat, and the disease is increasing. Therefore it must be stopped." This is called *dhīra.* That is called *dhīra.* That is, one word is used, *dhīra,* in *Kumāra-sambhava,* that Pārvatī was induced. Lord Śiva was in meditation, and the necessity was that Kārttikeya... Kārttikeya means "With the semina of Lord Śiva and Pārvatī's," what is called, "semen, they mix together, the child will be born. He can kill these demons." Therefore Kārttik... So Lord Śiva was engaged in meditation. So Pārvatī was engaged to worship the genital of Lord Śiva. That's... Therefore they introduced this, *Śiva-liṅga* is worshiped. *Śiva-liṅga.* So when was worshiping, a young girl touching the genital, but he was sitting without any disturbance. Therefore he has been described, *dhīra. Dhīra.* One who is not disturbed by the sex impulse, even in the presence of very beautiful young girl, he is called *dhīra.* > So *kaṇḍūtivan manasijaṁ viṣaheta dhīraḥ.* One has to become *dhīra.* That is wanted. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. Twice he was induced by very beautiful young girl at dead of night. But he remained... "Yes, I'll satisfy you." He turned... That is called *dhīra.* There is another place. The *dhīra* word is used in the *Bhagavad-gītā.* --- **[1974: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.5.24](spoken/1974/740805sb.vrn)** > So... But still, although they are equal to everyone, still, one who is very much inclined to render service, especially inclined. Therefore it is said, *yadyapi tulya-darśanāḥ.* It is not that saintly person is partial, showing somebody special favor and somebody no favor. No. They are open to everyone. Just like Kṛṣṇa, He's open to everyone. Kṛṣṇa says, *sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja*. It is not it is meant for only Arjuna. He's open to everyone. Just like sunlight. Sunlight is open to everyone. Everyone can enjoy sunlight. But if you keep your doors closed voluntarily, then what sun will do? Sun is *tulya-darśanaḥ.* > So Nārada Muni is the original spiritual master of Vyāsadeva, and from Vyāsadeva our disciplic succession is coming. Therefore *guru* is representative of Vyāsadeva. On his birthday the ceremony is offered as Vyāsa-pūjā. This is the disciplic succession. So we should try to follow Nārada Muni. *Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ*. There are twelve *mahājanas,* great authorities, of whom, out of the twelve, Nārada Muni is one of them. *Svayambhūr nāradaḥ śambhuḥ*. Svayambhūr nāradaḥ śambhuḥ.* Yes. Is not that the verse? *Svayambhūr nāradaḥ śambhuḥ kapilaḥ kumāro manuḥ.* So Nārada's name is there, the, one of the *mahājanas.* So Nārada Muni is *mahājana,* and he became *mahājana* on account of his austerity and following the principles. So anyone who follows Nārada, he also becomes *mahājana.* This is the disciplic succession. --- **[1975: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.52](spoken/1975/750805sb.det)** > Human life is meant for *tapasya,* not to live like cats and dogs and hogs. That is not human life. *Nāyaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛloke kaṣṭān kāmān arhate viḍ-bhujāṁ ye*. This body..., all bodies are there in the darkness. Therefore it is said, *dehy ajñaḥ.* The lower animals, they are *ajñaḥ.* They cannot control. But human body is meant for controlling. *Na ayaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛloke. Nṛloke* means "in the human society." *Na ayaṁ deha.* Everyone has got body. Cats and dogs, they have got body. The trees also have body. The worms have body. All living entity, anyone who has come into this material world, under different body or different dress they are suffering in this material world. Therefore the *śāstra* is meant for the human being so that he can understand his awkward position. > So when I started this movement, somehow or other I tried to fix up the mind of these boys in Kṛṣṇa. In the beginning I never said that "You have to do this. You have to do that." But somehow or other, they are very nice boys, so they fixed up their mind in Hare Kṛṣṇa chanting. Kṛṣṇa and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa—the same thing. Therefore we... Our process is to chant, *kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ* [*Cc Ādi* 17.31], chant Hare Kṛṣṇa always. Then the mind becomes... Chant and hear. *Yena tena prakāreṇa.* Then everything will be complete. It is so... As we are fallen at the present moment in this age, the remedy is also very effective. *Kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya paraṁ vrajet*. Kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya nitya-muktaḥ paraṁ vrajet.* This is the special advantage of this Kali-yuga, because people are so fallen that it is very difficult to raise them to the standard of spiritual understanding by the prescribed method. Prescribed method means *tapasā brahmacaryeṇa śamena damena niyamena tyāgena*. It is very difficult. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has given us His blessings, *kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ* [*Cc Ādi* 17.31]. --- **[1976: Bhagavad-gītā 15.15](spoken/1976/760805bg.nmr)** > [translated throughout by Jayāntakṛd] Knowledge given by Paramātmā from within the core of the heart is explained by the modern scientist as intuition. They do not know wherefrom the intuition is coming. And that is coming from God. Therefore it is stated *mattaḥ, mattaḥ,* "from Me," *smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca.* A small cub, dog, it has not opened the eyes, but still, immediately after birth it is seeking the nipples of the mother. So wherefrom the knowledge comes? From his within. And that is from God. The other day I explained, *Vedas* means just like this Dictaphone machine is manufactured along with one literature is also compiled, so customers, they are given the delivery of the machine as well as the literature how to use it. That is the *Vedas.* Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that *vedānta-kṛt,* "I am the compiler of the *Vedas.*" Because if He does not give the literature, then how he will use the machine? The manufacturer of the machine, he knows how to use it, what for it is, how to manipulate it. Everything is there. The Vedic knowledge means that. We have come to this material world. So just like we have purchased this machine for some enjoyment, similarly, we are fallen down to this material world for some material pleasure. So Kṛṣṇa has given, God has given, a literature. If you'll be guided by the literature, that, your propensity to enjoy this material world, will be fulfilled, at the same time you'll again be able to go back home, back to Godhead. So now you discuss this point, that why we have come to this material world, what is the purpose. These things are mentioned in the *Vedas. Vedas* gives you knowledge about your relationship with God. That is the first knowledge. And then, according to that relationship, if you act, then you are rightly directed, and ultimately the goal is to go back home, back to Godhead. So discuss on this point if you have anyone any doubt, any question. > The difficulty is when a person is missing the aim of life, his energy is diverted in different misleading ways. Just like for our bodily necessities of life we require to eat, we require to sleep, we require some sense pleasure or sex pleasure, and we require some defense. So that is arranged—you eat, you sleep, you have wife or husband, enjoy, and properly defend yourself—but the business is different. Business is different means living peacefully he has to realize God, his relationship with God. That is his real business. But because people are not educated to the real business, he thinks that these four principles of bodily necessities of life, eating, sleeping, sex and defense, that is my business. Therefore he's transferring from this eating to that eating, from this sleeping to that sleeping, from this sex to that sex, from this defense to that defense. Because he has no other idea. This is the difficulty. He's thinking that sex life from this person to that person will be nice. But that is not. Sex life by the dogs, by the hogs or by the man, the same pleasure. That I have repeatedly said, that any nice, tasteful eatable, either you keep it in the golden pot or in iron pot, the taste is the same. But he, rascal, does not know. He thinks that "If I put it in the golden pot it will be more tasteful." This is going on. The sex life is the same. He's thinking in the human form of sex in a very nice apartment, so many, so many, decorated, it will change the quality of the sex between dogs and dogs. No, that will not change. The same taste. But because he has no other engagement, better engagement, therefore he's trying to improve these things, the tendency for these things. That is his trouble. He's becoming entrapped. Sometimes he's enjoying as a man, sometimes he's enjoying as a hog, sometimes he's enjoying as a dog, as a demigod, but the enjoyment is the same. But that he does not know. He has to go beyond this, transcend this enjoyment. That information he has no. That is the difficulty. --- **[1976: Room Conversation with Professor Francois Chenique](spoken/1976/760805r1.nmr)** > If one *jñānī* is impersonalist, he's not *jñānī.* He is still unaware of the Absolute Truth. He does not know. Therefore it will take many, many births to come to the understanding of the Personality of Godhead. Therefore he's not *jñānī;* he's claiming to be *jñānī.* Such *jñānī* will take many hundreds of births to come to the position of real *jñānī.* Find out this *bahūnāṁ janmanām ante*. [devotee reads in French] So-called *jñānī,* after many, many births, when he understands Kṛṣṇa and surrenders to Him, then he's *jñānī. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ.* That kind of *jñānī* is very, very rare. The impersonalist means *ajñānī.* Yes. Because he does not know Kṛṣṇa, the person. > There is another verse in the *Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam: āruhya kṛcchreṇa paraṁ padaṁ tataḥ patanty adhaḥ*. Āruhya kṛcchreṇa,* by the *jñāna* process, is undergoing austerities and penances, one comes to the platform of *paraṁ padam,* monism, or platform of oneness. But because he has no shelter, he *patanty adhaḥ,* again comes to the material. Just like so many *sannyāsīs* in India, they are very learned, they have come to the platform of Brahman realization, but after some time they come to the material field for political work, for social work. They give up this world, *brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā.* If *jagat* is *mithyā,* is false, why does he come for social work? Just like these people going to the moon planet, but because they do not get any shelter, they take some sand and come back again. So what is the use of going there and spending so much money and come back with little sand, and satisfied, "Now we have studied"? Because they have no shelter. So the *jñānīs,* they have no shelter. Yes. They may go very high in the sky, but because they have no shelter they come back again. *Punar muṣika bhava:* again become a mouse. So that is not *jñānī;* that is *ajñānī. Jñānī* is described here, *mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām*. --- ## Letters on August 5 *Letters from this day: 16* --- **[1958: Letter to Ratanshi Morarji Khatau](letters/1947-1965/580805_ratanshi_morarji_khatau)** > I beg to inform you that I am in reciept of your invitation letter in the matter of observing Bhagavata week through the secretary of Bombay spiritual centre. --- **[1969: Letter to Krsna Dasa](letters/1969/690805_krsna_dasa)** > From these letters it appears that things are not yet settled up, and under the circumstances, there is no use of rushing the matter. --- **[1969: Letter to Satsvarupa](letters/1969/690805_satsvarupa)** > If the landlord allows you to take possession of the house on payment of $12,000 on the terms and conditions as stated by you, then you must enter the house immediately, and we take it for granted it is Krishna's offer. --- **[1969: Letter to Sri K.L. Goswami](letters/1969/690805_sri_k.l._goswami)** > Regarding the land, we are already negotiating for some land on the bank of the Ganges in Navadvipa. I think Serampore being an industrial center, the price is very high. --- **[1969: Letter to Yamuna](letters/1969/690805_yamuna)** > I have also received some photographs of your Rathayatra Day ceremony, sent to me by Sri Govinda. --- **[1970: Letter to Subhadra](letters/1970/700805_subhadra)** > I did not reply right away because I am getting ready to to lead a Sankirtana Party to chant Hare Krsna in Japan and then to India, where Lord Sri Krsna had all His Pastimes with the cowherd boys and girls. --- **[1971: Letter to Bhavananda](letters/1971/710805_bhavananda)** > I understand from Karandhara that you had some telephone conversation on the matter of changing places. --- **[1971: Letter to Karandhara](letters/1971/710805_karandhara)** > Regarding your changing position with Bhavananda, I don't think L.A. The original proposal was that if the presidents required the change then they could switch centers, but changing of your place will not be very favorable. --- **[1971: Letter to Sri Govinda](letters/1971/710805_sri_govinda)** > Your idea for a festival much like the one we held in Calcutta and Bombay, at all the university campuses is a very good proposal, so do it nicely. Simply pictures of Guru Gauranga will do; there is no need of taking along Jagannatha Deities. --- **[1972: Letter to Acyutananda](letters/1972/720805_acyutananda)** > Now you please remain there and jointly help Gurudasa and the other two Indian boys and hold as much as you can kirtana and discourses widely all over the Vrindaban village. --- **[1972: Letter to Bali-Mardana](letters/1972/720805_bali-mardana)** > I am very happy to understand from you that the printing work is going on prolifically, that is our first business, to print and distribute this Krsna knowledge very widely. I am expecting very soon the delivery of Bhagavad-gita As it Is* and you may dispatch many copies to England also. --- **[1972: Letter to Niranjana](letters/1972/720805_niranjana)** > I am sending the letter to Varanasi as you indicate that you will be leaving Bhilai by August 4. --- **[1972: Letter to Pusta Krsna](letters/1972/720805_pusta_krsna)** > Yes, that is the sannyasi business, to travel from center to center and instruct the devotees in spiritual life. --- **[1973: Letter to Manager Of Central Bank Of India](letters/1973/730805_manager_of_central_bank_of_india)** > Regarding account number 9-381, International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Building Fund. --- **[1974: Letter to Amogha](letters/1974/740805_amogha)** > The articles are very nice, and I am very pleased how the Christian community are appreciating our movement. --- **[1976: Letter to Ramesvara](letters/1976/760805_ramesvara)** > Please find enclosed one bank draft #672 from Provident National Bank on account 588 587 6 for the amount of #382. ---