# August 4 ## Spoken on August 4 *Lectures from this day: 12 recordings* --- **[1969: Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamāla Kṛṣṇa](spoken/1969/690804lc.la)** > Actually, it is that. All religious people, so-called religious leaders, come here. And religion means this, to love, I mean to say, develop love of God. That is religion. What is this formulary? Simply formula, that "I keep this, I copy that," that is not religion, simply by dressing in different way or sitting in a different way. Where is your understanding? You have no understanding of God. You simply formally attend some church or mosque or temple for some material benefit or for some..., make some show, but where is your love of God? That is the test of religion, *Bhāgavata* says. > Then he said, "Oh, this cow-killing is also in your Hindu religion." Then He said, "How is that, Hindu religion cow-killing?" "Oh, there is cow sacrifice." Then He said that "Cow sacrifice is not like this. Cow sacrifice is giving new life to the old cow. That is cow sacrifi... It is not killing." And because at the present moment the *brāhmaṇas* are not so qualified that they can give new life, therefore that sacrifice is now forbidden. He cited some verses from Vedic literature that cow sacrifice and horse sacrifice, and to beget children by the younger brother of husband, and *sannyāsa,* and offering oblations with meat, these things are forbidden. So that is past. This is... Now it has no significance. --- **[1971: Bhagavad-gītā 7.1–3](spoken/1971/710804bg.lon)** > So Kṛṣṇa says, *jñānaṁ te 'haṁ sa-vijñānam...* The *yoga* system... *Yoga* system is a type of knowledge. *Jñānam. Jñānam* means knowledge. *Jñānaṁ te 'haṁ sa-vijñānam idaṁ vakṣyāmy aśeṣataḥ* : "I'm just trying to explain the knowledge, or the devotional knowledge, or the *yoga* system, by which you can understand Me perfectly. That I am speaking to you in full knowledge," *jñānam,* and *sa-vijñānam,* "with scientific knowledge." Not that bogus knowledge. *Sa-vijñānam. Vijñānam* means science. With scientific knowledge. > Kṛṣṇa can be found within this universe, in everyone, as well as in the atoms also, within the atoms. *Samagram.* But this knowledge is little difficult. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, *manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye .* Out of many millions of human beings, one becomes interested in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, or God consciousness. When I speak "Kṛṣṇa," you should understand "God." So Kṛṣṇa says *manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu. Sahasreṣu* is plural number, means among thousands and thousands of men, millions and thousands of men, one become interested. *Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye. Siddhaye* means perfection. Perfection of life. One should be very cool-headed. --- **[1971: Room Conversation with Apa Pante High Commissioner for United Kingdom](spoken/1971/710804r1.lon)** > Maybe that if we grow in number in India they might be thinking that "They are also something [indistinct]." [indistinct] worldwide movement. This culture is being accepted, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In this room you see they look forward to India's spiritual culture. And this is real. Before that, whatever spiritual culture there was in the foreign countries [indistinct], and they have now taken in their own way, that [indistinct] following: *evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ*. > Therefore in particularly from Europe now [indistinct] to Vṛndāvana. You will find that seventy[?]-five percent of the population is Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava. *Arādhyo bhagavān vrajeṣa-tanāya tad-dhāma vṛndāvanam. Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā* [*Caitanya-mañjusā*]. There is no higher method of worshiping than what was [indistinct] by the *gopīs, vraja-vadhū* [indistinct] *śrīmad-bhāgavataṁ amalaṁ purāṇam*. --- **[1973: Bhagavad-gītā 2.3](spoken/1973/730804bg.lon)** > So the activities of Kṛṣṇa, the rascals, if they simply see that "Kṛṣṇa is enticing Arjuna to fight; therefore Kṛṣṇa is immoral," that is..., means wrong vision. You have to see Kṛṣṇa with separate eyes. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says in the *Bhagavad-gītā, janma karma me divyaṁ ca*. Divyam.* These transcendental activities of Kṛṣṇa, if anyone can understand, simply if anyone can understand, then he becomes liberated immediately. Liberated. Not liberated ordinary liberation, but for going back to home, back to Godhead. *Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya*. The greatest liberation. > So for a *bhakta* there is no trouble with the senses, because a *bhakta* knows how to engage each and every sense in the service of the Lord. *Hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanam*. That is *bhakti. Hṛṣīka* means the senses. When the senses are engaged only for the service of Kṛṣṇa, Hṛṣīkeśa, then there is no need of practicing *yoga.* Automatically they are locked up in the service of Kṛṣṇa. They have no other engagement. That is the highest. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, --- **[1973: Room Conversation With Mr. John Papworth and Mr. E. F. Schumacher](spoken/1973/730804r1.lon)** > Everyone should work for Kṛṣṇa. Everything should be utilized for Kṛṣṇa. So Kṛṣṇa is the supreme head of state, and everything is utilized for His purpose, His service. Just like Kṛṣṇa says, "Whatever you do as work, whatever you eat, whatever you give away, you do it for Me." The same philosophy... Communist philosophy is "Everyone works for the state; the state will distribute." Right? So... But it's imperfect. But here is the perfect thing. Kṛṣṇa, He is the supreme creator, He's the proprietor. Therefore everything must be used for His pleasure. Then it becomes perfect communism. > Women should be treated as mother. They should be given protection. They should not be advertised for prostitution. All living [beings] should be given protection. This is the government's duty. A king's duty is government duty, that anyone who has taken birth on the land, he must be protected; it doesn't matter whether he's human being or animal or tree. So these are the process of purification. If you don't adopt the process, simply you think the counterside only, there is no wor... So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will purify the whole situation. Therefore you expect. --- **[1974: Bhagavad-gītā 4.12](spoken/1974/740804bg.vrn)** > So that is stated in the *Vedas,* that *parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate, svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca.* Kṛṣṇa's knowledge is so perfect. Kṛṣṇa says, *mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram*. This nature's work is going on not whimsically, but under the guidance of pushing the button of Kṛṣṇa, by Kṛṣṇa. It is not going... Any scientist can understand that no machine, however nicely made, finely made, without pushing the button it cannot work. So the huge machinery of the cosmic manifestation, which is working so nicely and perfected, perfectly... Our Dr. Svarūpa Dāmodara has mentioned in his book very nicely. So... There must be some brain. All big, big scientists... Even Professor Einstein, he also admitted. So there is brain. That brain is Kṛṣṇa. That brain is Kṛṣṇa. > So here, in this material world, people are trying to enjoy. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, *kāṅkṣantaḥ karmaṇāṁ siddhim*. Everyone is working very hard. Any business he is doing, he is praying, "O my Lord, give me the opportunity that I may get success in my business." So Kṛṣṇa is giving. That is also very nice. If a person, desiring some material profit, remembering Kṛṣṇa, that is also welcome. Welcome because he is not atheist. Atheist class men, even for material success, they do not pray to God. But theist class, one who has got background pious activities, he is called theist. An impious, sinful activities, or sinful man, cannot remember even God. *Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ*. Yeṣām anta-gataṁ pāpaṁ janānāṁ puṇya-karmaṇām*. --- **[1974: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.5.23](spoken/1974/740804sb.vrn)** > Kṛṣṇa, under... *Yaṁ labdhvā cāparaṁ lābhaṁ manyate nādhikaṁ tataḥ*. This is stated here. Because if you get somehow or other Kṛṣṇa's favor, then there is no question of any more profit. Sufficient profit. You have got everything. Simply be sincere to the service of Kṛṣṇa. Then you have got everything. There is no need of trying for this or that. *Yasmin sthite guruṇāpi duḥkhena na vicālyate*. If one is situated under the shelter of Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet, then *guruṇāpi duḥkhena na vicālyate.* If there is dangerous type of inconvenience, then he's not disturbed. He knows... Just like Ambarīṣa Mahārāja, Prahlāda Mahārāja. There are many instances. His father, Hiraṇyakaśipu, was giving him trouble, chastising. He was patient, not disturbed. So be sure that if you are..., if you have actually taken shelter of the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, there is no question of danger. *Kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśyati*. And Kṛṣṇa confirms it: "Kaunteya, My dear Arjuna, you declare to the world that My devotee will be never vanquished by any enemy." That is Kṛṣṇa's assurance. > And who becomes purified? *Kirāta-hūṇāndhra-pulinda-pulkaśā ābhīra-śumbhā ya...,* all the people who are less than the *śūdras.* They are called *pañcamas,* fifth grade. First grade, *brāhmaṇa;* second grade, *kṣatriya;* third grade, *vaiśya;* fourth grade, *śūdra;* and all others—fifth grade. They are called *caṇḍālas.* The *caṇḍālas:* the sweeper, the cobbler, and the... Low grade. Still, in India, these fifth-grade persons only, they eat meat—pigs, and sometimes cows. Fifth grade. Now it has become a practice, and he's a first-grade man. So just see. What was the business of the fifth-grade men, that has become the business of the so-called politicians. You see? So if you are ruled by the fifth-grade men, then how you can be happy? That is not possible. How there can be any social tranquility? That is not possible. But even the fifth-grade man, he can be purified by Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Therefore there is great need of this movement. Because at the present moment there is no first-class men, no first-grade men, no second-grade men. Maybe third grade, fourth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade, like that. But they can be purified. That is... The only process is this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Anyone can be purified. *Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ*. --- **[1975: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.51](spoken/1975/750804sb.det)** > We have desires, many types of desires, *jñāna* and *karma. Karma* platform is foolishness. Just like everywhere they are very busy, *karmī,* but they do not know what is the aim of life. That is called *karma:* acting something and suffering again. This is called *karma.* And *jñāna* means one who understands that, by analysis, that "These wrappers, material wrappers, these fifteen—five, five, five; five sense organs, five object of sense enjoyment—in this way twenty-four wrappers, so how I am to get out of these wrappings?" That is intelligence. That is *jñānī.* But a *jñānī* does not know that "I get out from this entanglement. Then where I stay?" That they do not know. So that information is given by Kṛṣṇa, that "Give up this, and take up Me." Negative and positive, both. *Sarva-dharmān parityajya* : "Give up this nonsense desires." Then? What to do? Now, *mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja:* "Come to Me, under Me." This is required. *Ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānu. Mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja.* That is not variety-less, that "I surrender unto You, then business finished." No. *Śaraṇaṁ vraja* means *ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanam* : what Kṛṣṇa says, you do that. Just like Arjuna. Arjuna was not willing to fight, but when he listened *Bhagavad-gītā* from Kṛṣṇa, then he agreed to fight. > So the problem, the whole problem of the material world, can be solved only when we purify our desires. *Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam, ānukūlyena kṛṣṇā. Anukūla,* what Kṛṣṇa says. Kṛṣṇa is not dead. Therefore *ānukūlyena.* What Kṛṣṇa says, we have to do that. Kṛṣṇa says to Arjuna to fight. So we have to meet the situation as Kṛṣṇa desired by. Sometimes He may say, "You sit down." So we have to carry out only. The Kṛṣṇa is not dead. He can give us varieties of order, and our position is that we shall simply carry out the order. That is life. Otherwise we are under the clutches of *māyā,* or material nature. *Prakteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ.* We are thinking that "I am the lord of everything." That is not the fact. The fact is that we have to work under somebody. That is our real position. *Jīvera 'svarūpa' haya nitya kṛṣṇa dāsa*. We are workers. We are not enjoyer. But unfortunately we are trying to take the position of enjoyer. That is *māyā.* That is *māyā.* And if we agree to work under the direction of Kṛṣṇa, then our original life is revived. That is wanted. --- **[1976: Bhagavad-gītā 4.24](spoken/1976/760804bg.nmr)** > In the *Vedānta-sūtra* it is said, *janmādy asya yataḥ*. *Brahma* or Absolute Truth is that from where everything is emanating. Kṛṣṇa says in the *Bhagavad-gītā, ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavaḥ : "I am the source of everything." *Mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate:* "Everything is coming from Me." So in another place, to make further clear, *bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca. Bhinnā me prakṛtir aṣṭadhā : "These eight energies, they are My energy." *Aṣṭadhā,* eight: earth, water, air fire, sky, mind, intelligence, ego. *Bhinnā,* separated. Just like I am speaking in the Dictaphone, but after some time, without me, it will speak exactly like this. So I am speaking, but I'm not present there. Similarly, material world means it is being conducted by Kṛṣṇa, but still, Kṛṣṇa, personally, He's not present there. In another place Kṛṣṇa says that, > That is explained in the *Brahma-saṁhitā, yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi* [Bs. 5.40]. On account of Kṛṣṇa's... You have seen Kṛṣṇa's effulgence is coming. That is the source of everything. That expansion of that effulgence is the *brahma-jyoti,* and in that *brahma-jyoti,* innumerable spiritual planets, material planets are generated. And in each and every planet there are varieties of presentation. Actually, the origin is the Kṛṣṇa's rays of the body, and the rays of the body's origin is Kṛṣṇa. Any other questions? [break]...or not? --- **[1976: Evening Walk [Partially Recorded](spoken/1976/760804ew.nmr)** > That is the secret. It is imported from the spiritual world. *Golokera prema-dhana, hari-nāma-saṅkīrtana. Golokera.* It is coming from Goloka Vṛndāvana. [sings *śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda*] [pause] --- **[1976: Room Conversation](spoken/1976/760804r1.nmr)** > 2] O my Lord, Your holy name can render all benediction upon the living being, and therefore You have hundreds and millions of names, like Kṛṣṇa, Govinda, etc. In these transcendental names You have invested all Your transcendental potencies, and there is no hard-and-fast rules for chanting these holy names. O my Lord, You have so kindly made easy approach to You by Your holy names, but unfortunate as I am, I have no attraction for them. > 5] O the son of Mahārāja Nanda, I am Your eternal servitor, and although I am so, somehow or another I have fallen in the ocean of birth and death. Please therefore pick me up from the ocean of death and fix me up as one of the atoms of Your lotus feet. --- ## Letters on August 4 *Letters from this day: 13* --- **[1958: Letter to Jawaharlal Nehru](letters/1947-1965/580804_jawaharlal_nehru)** > You are thinking of adjusting western ways of material adjustment with Indian culture of spiritualism and I beg to give you herewith the clue that materialism conducted with an aim of reaching spiritual perfection, is the right adjustment of human activity. If the aim of spiritual realization is missed, the whole plan of materialism is sure to be frustrated and that is the law of Nature. --- **[1967: Letter to Brahmananda](letters/1967/670804_brahmananda)** > Regarding your question about Lord Caitanya's thinking himself lower than the grass, it should be understood spiritually. The dimension of the spirit soul is 1/10,000 part of the hair tip; so the spirit soul is certainly smaller than the grass. --- **[1970: Letter to Upendra](letters/1970/700804_upendra)** > Regarding your questions, the sannyasis are now devoted fully to travelling and preaching work, management is left to the local Temple Presidents and the members of the Governing Body Commission. As we make advancement, offenses should be gradually diminished; advanced devotees, in fact all devotees should study how to do this very carefully in the *Nectar of Devotion.* We can understand the Absolute Truth by *hearing,* that is how we can become perfect. --- **[1971: Letter to Bali-Mardana](letters/1971/710804_bali-mardana)** > So far the temple in Kuala Lumpur is concerned, we cannot be dictated by others. --- **[1971: Letter to Satsvarupaa](letters/1971/710804_satsvarupaa)** > So far the marriage of Shakuntala and Ajamita is concerned, I have no objection but you must brief them thoroughly on married life in Krishna Consciousness, how serious business it is, and that separation is not allowed under any circumstances. --- **[1971: Letter to Satsvarupab](letters/1971/710804_satsvarupab)** > So far your question is concerned you should understand that a devotee is never under any karmic reaction. --- **[1971: Letter to Sukhada](letters/1971/710804_sukhada)** > Upon his recommendation and the recommendation of Satsvarupa Prabhu I have gladly consented to accept you as my duly initiated disciple and have given you the spiritual name Sukhada Devi Dasi. --- **[1975: Letter to Giriraja](letters/1975/750804_giriraja)** > You can present to them for the exemption that all over the world in different parts we are training men to live in the interior parts of the country and to produce their own food grains, sufficient milk, and produce cloth also. The attraction is Krishna consciousness, spiritual enlightenment. --- **[1975: Letter to Gopala Krsna](letters/1975/750804_gopala_krsna)** > Bhurijana wanted to go there, but if he is spiritually weak, then there is no need. Print literature and distribute, or if it is impossible, then close it. --- **[1975: Letter to Madhudvisa](letters/1975/750804_madhudvisa)** > Yes, it is good that you are sending everybody on Sankirtana party, and also that everybody is taking prasada together. --- **[1975: Letter to Prabhas](letters/1975/750804_prabhas)** > If you have your ticket, I have no objection to your coming to USA. You should consult with Gopala Krishna Prabhu. --- **[1975: Letter to Saptaratha](letters/1975/750804_saptaratha)** > I have seen a photo of the dolls you have made of Krishna lifting Govardhana Hill and also Balarama. Your son has sent the photo. So you have done it very nicely. Go on with this work. --- **[1975: Letter to Vedavyasa](letters/1975/750804_vedavyasa)** > Regarding your going to Los Angeles, if Dr. Wolf suggests that you come, you should do it. At least you can come as tourist, so there should be no difficulty. So you should consult with Dr. Wolf. ---