# July 11 *Lectures from this day: 16 recordings* --- **[[spoken/710711le.la|Lecture — July 11, 1971 , Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...and the spiritual platform. The past, present and future calculation is according to this body. That there are different calculation it is scientifically proved—relativity, law of relativity. This world's past, present and future is different from the past, present, future of an ordinary man. The ant's past, present and future is different from human being. So this past, present and future is in relationship with this body. Actually, as we are eternal spirit soul, we have no past, present or future. Just like this child, he is playing. After a few years this age will be a past tense. Every one of us, we had also similar body, and that is now past tense. But I am this proprietor of the body. I remember that in such-and-such year I was a child like this, in such-and-such year I was a boy like this, in such-and-such year I was a young man like this. Therefore, "I" is eternal. I am eternal. This past and present and future is due to the change of body. Is it not a fact? I am the same, feeling; I am feeling same. The old man, an old man, he also remembers his enjoyments during his youthful time, and sometimes he wants to go back to those youthful days. An old man, when he meets his old friends, he talks about his youthful days. That means as spirit soul I am always youthful, but due to this condition of this body, I am feeling sometimes childish, sometime old man, sometime this or that. --- **[[spoken/720711r1.lon|Room Conversation with Sumati Morarjee — July 11, 1972, London]]** Sumati Morarjee: [Transl.I knew it. I came here day before yesterday. They told me that you are arriving today. I have been in London only.] Sumati Morarjee: [Transl.One piece of ginger. When you boil the milk, you cut the ginger into small pieces and throw in.] Sumati Morarjee: [Transl. Yes. If raw is not available then dry. So mix little bit of that and add sugar in it.] --- **[[spoken/730711bg.lon|Bg 1.6-7 — July 11, 1973, London]]** *yudhāmanyuḥ—*Yudhāmanyu; *ca—*and; *vikrāntaḥ—*mighty; *uttamaujāḥ*—Uttamaujā; *ca—*and; *vīryavān—*very powerful; *saubhadraḥ—*the son of Subhadrā; *draupadeyāḥ—*the sons of Draupadī; *ca—*and; *sarve—*all; *eva—*certainly; *mahā-rathāḥ—*great chariot fighters. **Translation:** "There are the mighty Yudhāmanyu, the very powerful Uttamaujā, the son of Subhadrā and the sons of Draupadī. All these warriors are great chariot fighters. *asmākam—*our; *tu—*but; *viśiṣṭāḥ*—especially powerful; *ye—*those; *tān—*them; *nibodha—*just take note, be informed; *dvijottama—*the best of the *brāhmaṇas; nāyakāḥ—*captains; *mama—*my; *sainyasya—*of the soldiers; *saṁjñā-artham—*for information; *tān—*them; *bravīmi—*I am speaking; *te—*your. --- **[[spoken/730711r1.lon|Room Conversation with Guest — July 11, 1973, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** So I do not know why these people protest against me. Kṛṣṇa says, Śukadeva Gosvāmī says, Caitanya Mahāprabhu says. I do not know what Śaṅkarācārya says, but... **Indian guest:** When, when *advaita-darśana* was the main doctrine of *ādi-śaṅkarācārya,* so there should not be any *dvaita* between *brāhmaṇa* and *śūdra.* [laughs] **Prabhupāda:** [laughs] That is, from argument, it is all right. Yes. Why one should see *Brahman* and not-*Brahman?* Yes. --- **[[spoken/730711r2.lon|Room Conversation with Indian Guest — July 11, 1973, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** So therefore there should be education. Why the *śāstras* are there? Why *guru* is there? *Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet* [Muṇḍaka Upaniṣad* 1.2.12].* You must accept *guru* and learn. Why should you remain ignorant? **Prabhupāda:** *Paripraśnena sevayā.* He should become a disciple of a *bona fide* *guru.* Otherwise, how he can learn? If you are uneducated, you should go to school. **Prabhupāda:** [Hindi] [laughter] It is very difficult to, to *guru,* but when *guru* comes, they also do not accept him. What can be done? They are so fallen. Only fortunate. *Ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva* [[cc/madhya/19/151|[Cc. Madhya 19.151] ]]. So to go to *guru*, to Kṛṣṇa, that requires fortune. *Kona bhāgyavān jīva.* Some fortunate person. *Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja* [[cc/madhya/19/151|[Cc. Madhya 19.151] ]]. By the mercy of *guru* and Kṛṣṇa, he gets the seed of this *bhakti. Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti* [[bg/18/55|[Bg. 18.55] ]]. And when he's a *bhakta,* then he can understand what is God. --- **[[spoken/730711r3.lon|Room Conversation with Father Tanner and Mrs. Wells — July 11, 1973, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** Because we follow Vedic principles. So *Vedas* declare that these four kinds of activity, they are sinful. So we accept. Our authority is *Veda, j*ust like lawyer's authority is law book. **Prabhupāda:** These are the basic principle of sinful lives. Other sinful activities come out of it. Just like illicit sex life. Illicit relationship of a man and woman, there may be many dangerous things. You see? So the basic principle is the illicit sex life. Now, it can go up to murdering and so many things. So if we avoid the basic principles, the further, subsidiary sinful activities automatically stopped. **Father Tanner:** But... I haven't remembered the four, but is one of those basic principles concerned with truth? --- **[[spoken/730711r4.lon|Room Conversation — July 11, 1973, London]]** **Prabhupāda:** When the destiny of the people are to be controlled, there must be very, very intelligent man. That is Vedic civilization. There is standard aims and objects on which the people should be trained up. That is *varṇāśrama-dharma. Viṣṇur ārādhana,* worshiping Viṣṇu. This is the ultimate aim. So the whole society is divided into *brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra,* and *brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha*, *sannyāsa—*departmental—and they are trained up. But the aim is *viṣṇur ārādhana.* But they have no idea at the present moment. *Viṣṇur ārādhana,* he has no knowledge. But the civilization begins on this point. Human being means he's meant for *viṣṇur ārādhana.* Otherwise, what is the difference between dogs and human being? The Western people, they do not know. They simply think that dog lies down on the floor, on the road... "We have got nice, best apartment. Therefore you are civilized." So that is their defect. They are trying to improve the condition of sleeping, eating. That's all. That is advancement of civilization. But that is not advancement of civilization. Advancement of civilization means to understand Viṣṇu, how to please Him, how to go back to Him, go to the spiritual world. This is advancement of civilization. *Yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama* [[bg/15/6|[Bg. 15.6] ]]. --- **[[spoken/740711sb.la|SB 1.16.21 — July 11, 1974, Los Angeles]]** **Nitāi:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [**Prabhupāda and **devotees repeat] [leads chanting of verse, etc.] **Translation:** "Are you feeling compunction..., compassion for the unhappy women and children who are left forlorn by the unscrupulous persons? Or are you unhappy because the goddess of learning is being handled by brāhmaṇas addicted to acts against the principles of religion? Or are you sorry to see that the brāhmaṇas have taken shelter of administrative families that do not respect brahminical culture?" --- **[[spoken/750711a2.phi|Arrival Lecture — July 11, 1975, Philadelphia]]** **Prabhupāda:** So thank you very much for your kind reception. The press reporter, they were asking me that we make distinction between man, woman, and black, white. We make distinction not in that way. We say that so long you are on the material platform, artificially, however you may try to keep everyone on the equal level, it will be failure. Just like the United Nation is trying to be united nationally, internationally for the last more than thirty years, but they have not been able to do so. In the *Bhagavad-gītā* there is one verse, *Paṇḍita* means spiritually advanced. A person who is spiritually advanced, he sees on equal level a very learned man, *vidyā-vinaya-sampanne brāhmaṇa, brāhmaṇa,* the first-class man; *vidyā-vinaya-sampanne gavi,* an animal like cow; *hasti,* animal like elephant; *vidyā-vinaya-sampanne brāhmaṇe gavi hastini, śuni,* means dog; *śva-pāka,* means the dog-eater, *caṇḍāla—*all of them, they see equal. So what is that seeing? If I invite one learned scholar, and if I ask him, "Please sit down with the dog," will he be pleased? He will feel insulted. But I see that within the dog there is spirit soul, and within the learned scholar there is spirit soul. *Paṇḍitāḥ sama... Sama-darśinaḥ* means from different platform. On the material platform, if I say, "Oh, you may be a learned scholar, and you may think the dog is dog, but I see you are all equal," so it will be insult. --- **[[spoken/750711ar.phi|Arrival — July 11, 1975, Philadelphia]]** **Woman reporter* [Anne Jackson]:* It's been reported that the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement has been what some people would consider sexist or racist, because certain propensities for women and for blacks have been defined, either by the devotees or by the Vedic scriptures, I'm not sure which. And I wondered if you would comment on that. **Brahmānanda:** It has been alleged that our movement is against women and against Negroes because we do not give them... What is it? **Anne Jackson:** Well, not necessarily against them, but defining inferior roles for them by their natural traits. --- **[[spoken/750711in.chi|Bābājī Initiation — July 11, 1975, Chicago]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...I am accepting this dress following the footprints of other *ācāryas.* This dress was accepted by Rūpa Gosvāmī, not ordinary person. The six Gosvāmīs, they accepted. It is called *paramahaṁsa* stage, *sannyāsī's* highest stage. *Sannyāsī* has got four stages: *kuṭīcaka, bahūdaka, parivrājakācārya* and *paramahaṁsa. Kuṭīcaka* means when he takes *sannyāsa,* he is not accustomed to beg; therefore he makes a small cottage outside the village, and the foodstuff comes from the home or somebody sends. In this way, when he is little practiced, then he goes door to door, begs, *bahūdaka.* Then he is more practiced: *parivrājakācārya,* he travels all over the world. And after that, when he is fully mature, he can chant one place Hare Kṛṣṇa. He has no more business. So this is the last stage of mature *sannyāsa.* But because you are thinking that you may not live many years, so you simply sit down, go to Māyāpur. You have no other business. Simply go on chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa *mantra,* and whatever little *prasādam* available, you take. And the rest of your life simply engage in chanting. That will be success. **Prabhupāda:** Ah, Auḍolomī dāsa Bābājī. That's all. Hare Kṛṣṇa. So this is the first time in our institution, a *bābājī.* So it is not to be imitated. It is the *paramahaṁsa* stage, when one is very mature in *sannyāsa* life, for that, not for ordinary person. Don't request, "Give me *sannyāsa,*" "Give me *bābājī.*" Don't do that. It is not a fashion. It is a stage of realization. That's all. --- **[[spoken/750711mw.chi|Morning Walk — July 11, 1975, Chicago]]** **Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:** ...hoping to bring the buses here to take a photograph with you, Śrīla Prabhupāda, this morning. [break] **Śrī Govinda:** ...Mr. Chandra Ahuja to you. He has loaned us the Continental, which we have been using to drive you in. **Prabhupāda:** Oh. You are medical practitioner? [break] Cooler, cooler nowadays? [break] Then other big, big telescope, how many miles it can see? --- **[[spoken/750711sb.chi|SB 6.1.26 — July 11, 1975, Chicago]]** **Prabhupāda:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [devotees chant responsively] *Bhuñjāna,* by raising him very affectionately, by giving him all necessities of life, *bhuñjānaḥ prapiban,* all kinds of drinks, milk, fruit juice; *khādan,* solid food... There are four kinds of foodstuff: something we chew, something we swallow, something we lick up and something we drink. So everything was being supplied, *bālakam,* to that small boy. Every mother, every father does so. It is very natural. *Sneha-yantritaḥ.* Why do they do so? That is God's arrangement. If the father and mother hasn't got such affection, then the helpless child... In the beginning there is no other means of living. Even cats and dogs, even tigers, they also take care. --- **[[spoken/760711cc.ny|Cc. Madhya 20.105 — July 11, 1976, New York]]** **Prabhupāda:** [*prema-dhvani*] Thank you very much. [chants:* *Jaya Rādhā-Mādhava*] [*prema-dhvani*] Thank you very much.**Pradyumna:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. *[*Prabhupāda and* devotees repeat] [leads chanting, etc.] **Translation:** "Since you possess Lord Kṛṣṇa's potency, you certainly know these things. However, it is the nature of a sadhu to enquire. Although he knows these things, the sadhu enquires for the sake of strictness." --- **[[spoken/760711ed.ny|Evening Darśana — July 11, 1976, New York]]** **Prabhupāda:** [Transl. Please come.] "I take away as death." Whatever they are accumulating, everything will be taken away at the time of death. That they do not understand. They are simply collecting, accumulating, discovering—forgetting that everything will be taken away at the time of death. [Transl. Come.] Discover something which can check death, there will be no more death. That is real discovery. What do you think? **Prabhupāda:** Because whatever we are discovering, it will be taken away by death. So discover something which will stop death. And that is real discovery. **Indian man (1):** But don't you think it will be a bad thing, because there are some bad people in the world like, let's say, Hitler and Stalin and others, they may be the first people to use the technology to prolong their life? --- **[[spoken/760711mw.ny|Morning Walk — July 11, 1976, New York]]** **Prabhupāda:** I spoke about this cosmic manifestation, where is Vaikuṇṭha, where is... This is a church? **Rāmeśvara:** The Library Party said that everywhere they go in India, they find that you went there first with your first three volumes of *Bhāgavatam.* Especially in New Delhi, they said. There's one institute which had fifty sets of your original first canto, so now they ordered fifty complete sets to complete the books they had. They said that all the major colleges had your original *Bhāgavatams* in India, first edition. So then they could understand that you were distributing books yourself. **Prabhupāda:** In India the *sannyāsīs* beg, but I did not beg. I sold my *Back to Godhead,* books. I got income tax free for "League of Devotees." --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1967/670711_brahmananda.md|Letter to Brahmananda, 1967]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_bali-mardana.md|Letter to Bali-Mardana, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_brahmananda.md|Letter to Brahmananda, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_gopala_krsna.md|Letter to Gopala Krsna, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_jadurani.md|Letter to Jadurani, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_jayapataka.md|Letter to Jayapataka, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_murari.md|Letter to Murari, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690711_sivananda.md|Letter to Sivananda, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1970/700711_hansadutta.md|Letter to Hansadutta, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700711_jadurani.md|Letter to Jadurani, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700711_pradyumna.md|Letter to Pradyumna, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700711_uddhava.md|Letter to Uddhava, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1971/710711_bali-mardana.md|Letter to Bali-Mardana, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1972/720711_gurudasa.md|Letter to Gurudasa, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720711_subala.md|Letter to Subala, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1973/730711_ajita.md|Letter to Ajita, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_ambarisa.md|Letter to Ambarisa, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_bishambhar.md|Letter to Bishambhar, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_caitya-guru.md|Letter to Caitya-Guru, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_gargamuni.md|Letter to Gargamuni, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_gopala_krsna.md|Letter to Gopala Krsna, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_krishna_mahesavari.md|Letter to Krishna Mahesavari, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_ramesvara.md|Letter to Ramesvara, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_yasodanananda.md|Letter to Yasodanananda, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760711_yasomatinandana.md|Letter to Yasomatinandana, 1976]]