# June 16 *Lectures from this day: 13 recordings* --- **[[spoken/680616sb.mon|SB 7.6.3 — June 16, 1968, Montreal]]** So we have discussed some of the symptoms of this age. There is a long list of other symptoms. We have summarily discussed some of the symptoms for the last few days, and again we are going to the Kṛṣṇa conscious movement of the boy Prahlāda, who was teaching, or agitating, his class fellows to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. --- **[[spoken/690616sb.nv|SB 1.5.13 — June 16, 1969, New Vrindaban]]** --- **[[spoken/720616sb.la|SB 2.3.20 — June 16, 1972, Los Angeles]]** **Pradyumna:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* On page 155, text number 20. [leads chanting of verse] [**Prabhupāda and **devotees repeat] **Prabhupāda:** [corrects pronunciation several times during chanting of verse: "Yes, like that.] **This is a strong "*ū.*"** *J*ihvāsatī dārdurikeva sūta.* When there is *dīrgha,* that should be stressed more. *J*ihvāsatī dārdurikeva sūta na copagāyaty urugāya-gāthāḥ.* Repeat again. [Pradyumna continues leading chanting] Next, anyone. [devotees chant, with **Prabhupāda** correcting pronunciation] [lady devotee chants] --- **[[spoken/730616sb.may|SB 1.10.1 — June 16, 1973, Māyāpur]]** **Pradyumna:** > śaunaka uvāca > hatvā svariktha-spṛdha ātatāyino > yudhiṣṭhiro dharma-bhṛtāṁ variṣṭhaḥ > sahānujaiḥ pratyavaruddha-bhojanaḥ > kathaṁ pravṛttaḥ kim akāraṣīt tataḥ > [[sb/1/10/1|[SB. 1.10.1] ]] *śaunakaḥ uvāca*—Śaunaka inquired; *hatvā*—after killing; *svariktha*—legal inheritance; *spṛdhaḥ*—desiring to usurp; *ātatāyinaḥ*—the aggressor; *yudhiṣṭhiraḥ*—King Yudhiṣṭhira; *dharma-bhṛtām*—of those who strictly follow religious principles; *variṣṭhaḥ*—greatest; *saha-anujaiḥ*—with his younger brothers; *pratyavaruddha*—restricted; *bhojanaḥ*—acceptance of necessities; *katham*—how; *pravṛttaḥ*—engaged; *kim*—what; *akāraṣīt*—executed; *tataḥ*—thereafter. **Translation:** "Śaunaka Muni asked: After killing his enemies who desired to usurp his rightful inheritance, how did the greatest of all religious men, Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, assisted by his brothers, rule his subjects? Surely he could not freely enjoy his kingdom with unrestricted consciousness." --- **[[spoken/740616bg.ger|Bg 2.1-5 — June 16, 1974, Germany]]** **Satsvarūpa:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [devotees repeat] **Satsvarūpa:** > śrī-bhagavān uvāca > kutas tvā kaśmalam idaṁ > viṣame samupasthitam > anārya-juṣṭam asvargyam > akīrti-karam arjuna > [[bg/2/2|[Bg. 2.2] ]] --- **[[spoken/750616mw.hon|Morning Walk — June 16, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Bali-mardana:** I have seen them selling sometime in private market, but I don't know if we can get it in the public market. **Prabhupāda:** Ah, yes. When it is ripe, it is very sweet. And when it is not ripe, it is called "vegetable meat." **Prabhupāda:** Yes, big, big seeds. That is also very digestive. If you make it powder, it acts like, what is called, pancreas. --- **[[spoken/750616r1.hon|Room Conversation with Govinda Dāsī — June 16, 1975, Honolulu]]** Govinda dāsī: [describing illustrations] ...because the co-wife complains. And so Dhruva is very upset and goes to his mother, and his mother is real upset, and she's crying. And so she takes him on her lap, and she tells him about Lord Viṣṇu, that He's the only solace. And so Dhruva leaves home. He leaves the palace immediately and goes to the forest to search out the Lord. And there he meets Nārada, who sees what's going on all this time. And Nārada tells him that he should take brahminical instructions, but Dhruva isn't able to, because he is determined as a *kṣatriya* boy. And so Nārada sits down and gives him instruction about Lord Viṣṇu and tells him to go to the forest, Madhuvana forest, and sit there in Vṛndāvana. And so Dhruva takes his instruction and goes there and sits in meditation in the forest. This will be Vṛndāvana in the background, and he sits there in meditation. In the meantime, King Uttānapāda is upset because he has offended his son, and so he is lamenting, and Nārada comes to him and tells him that "Your son's glories are already spread everywhere." So then Dhruva is perfecting his meditation in the later stages and standing on one toe and pressing down on earth planet, and all of the universe is becoming upset. I just studied your *Bhāgavata* and did from each *śloka*. And so the demigods go and pray to the Lord at the Ocean of Milk. This would be like in the bubbles, because I know they can't see Him, but it would be like He's seen, but not clearly. And so they pray to the Lord, and the Lord tells them, "Don't worry. I shall do something. " And so the Lord comes to Dhruva, who is in full meditation, and Dhruva, all of a sudden, he doesn't see the Lord, and he opens his eyes because he's upset, and he sees the Lord before him and falls down at His lotus feet. And then, because he's just a child, he doesn't have any knowledge of how to offer prayers, so the Lord touches him with the conch, and he's blessed with the ability to offer prayers. So then he offers prayers, and I'm going to put some of the glories of Mahā-Viṣṇu here. And so he's offering prayers to the Lord. And this drawing is not yet transferred, but this is the Lord, who then benedicts Dhruva with the kingdom on the planet earth and then also the polestar, or his own planet. Then Dhruva... The Lord leaves on Garuḍa, and Dhruva watches Him go. Then Dhruva begins to walk home, and he's lamenting, because despite having seen the Lord, he had material desires in his heart, and so he's in grief; he's lamenting. And so at this time a messenger comes to King Uttānapāda and tells the king that "Your son is coming," and so the king gives him a valuable garland and blesses him. And immediately he gets on his chariot with his horses and the two queens on a palanquin and leaves the palace looking for Dhruva. This is just sketched in; it's not finished. And so they see Dhruva entering a nearby forest, and they come down, and they all embrace him, and they're all very glad to see him come home. And then the king places Dhruva upon a big elephant, she-elephant-and I'm not sure if they have tusks or not—and he comes into the city, which is all decorated. And then the way I'm ending it is the king and Dhruva are sitting in one of the beautiful palace gardens, and the king is telling him how he will soon become king himself—Dhruva will soon become king when he grows a little older himself. --- **[[spoken/750616r2.hon|Room Conversation — June 16, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...the tree will be plucked and it will go high in the sky, and wherever you want to go, the tree will reach like this. That is the practice. It is not very common practice. **Prabhupāda:** In Bengali it is called *gācchāri*. That woman is called, driving the tree, *gācchāri*. **Siddha-svarūpa:** Here in the West I think there's a derivative of that. They speak of witches flying on brooms, a broomstick, that a witch can go through the air on a broomstick, or riding a broom, that they can go from one place to the next. But it is made into a fairytale, that, uh... --- **[[spoken/750616r3.hon|Room Conversation About Making Deities — June 16, 1975, Honolulu]]** Govinda dāsī: Śrīla Prabhupāda, Vṛṣṇi made the Deities along with me. He's a very excellent sculptor. He is the boy who is responsible for most of the work on the Deities. And so I called, you know, so far as making more Deities... **Prabhupāda:** Yes. Why don't you make Deity of cement or plaster of Paris? Your wife also knows... this Deity? Govinda dāsī: There was other materials that I was thinking of—liquid marble, resin or hydrostone. All of these are eq..., as hard as cement. [aside:] Aren't they? --- **[[spoken/750616r4.hon|Room Conversation about Modern Soceity — June 16, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...all these day to day, the workers. What for he's moved far away from his town, where he has come? [break] ...this is the material plan. But those who are *karmīs,* acting materially, they have got some attraction for material world. So Māyāvādīs, they give it up. Buddha philosophy is also like that—finish it, this material attachment. **Prabhupāda:** Buddha philosophy is simply negation. His philosophy is that this is a combination of matter: you dismantle the matter by combination. Just like a skyscraper, how it has come into being by combination of these material things: earth, water, air? So if the earth goes to the earth, water goes to the water, fire goes to the fire—then there is no combination. So the botheration is finished. That is his [indistinct—*kīrtana* very loud] philosophy and Śaṅkarācārya's philosophy is not only finishes this material construction, but he merges to the spiritual world. **Prabhupāda:** *Brahma-līna*. Now we are merged into the matter, and Śaṅkarā's philosophy is, no, you merge into the spirit. Buddha is impersonalist because he has no information of the spirit and Śaṅkara gives imperfect conditioning, and he gives stress that the spirit is truth, *Brahma-satya*: Brahman is truth, and this matter is untruth. --- **[[spoken/760616mw.det|Morning Walk — June 16, 1976, Detroit]]** --- **[[spoken/760616r1.det|Room Conversation — June 16, 1976, Detroit]]** **Hari-śauri:** [laughs] He was becoming very enthusiastic. He was very enlivened. Anyone with a little intelligence, as soon as you begin to speak to them, they, immediately, they become so much enlivened. He's obviously..., he's had some idea about organization and whatever, but he's never seen it practiced. And now he's come here and seen it practical. **Prabhupāda:** Yes. This is practical training. That is wanted. Simply theoretical knowledge... That is helpful, but training, that is the greatest need, that we have to create a set of first-class men. Then the world will be all right. That is an attempt of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, to make first class, ideal. Why they'll be attracted? They are seeing that "The priests are doing the same thing as we are doing." So how they will be attracted? Therefore Christianity is failing. They are also having the meat, illicit sex, drunkard—and they're priest. **Hari-śauri:** They've watered down so much, there's no value left to what they're doing. They're exactly the same as a man in the street, except he says he believes in God and the man on the street says he doesn't believe. And they have no ability to convince a man that God exists. They have no scientific knowledge or whatever. --- **[[spoken/760616sb.det|SB 6.1.50 — June 16, 1976, Detroit]]** **Pradyumna:Translation:** "Above the five senses of perception, the five working senses and the five objects of the senses is the mind, which is the sixteenth element. Above the mind is the seventeenth element, the soul, the living being himself, who, in cooperation with the other sixteen, enjoys the material world alone. The living being enjoys three kinds of situations, namely happy, distressful and mixed." **Prabhupāda:** > pañcabhiḥ kurute svārthān > pañca vedātha pañcabhiḥ > ekas tu ṣoḍaśena trīn > svayaṁ saptadaśo 'śnute > [[sb/6/1/50|[SB. 6.1.50] ]] This is the analytical study of our material position. Very clear analysis. We, *pañcabhiḥ,* with five working senses—voice..., *vāk, pāṇi, pāyu, udara, upastha...* Voice, arms, legs, anus and genital. There are twenty-four. The total material constituent parts are twenty-five, sometimes twenty-six they say. These seventeen, and the five elements gross and three subtle elements, in this way, altogether twenty-five including the soul. The soul is pure spirit, and other twenty-four elements, they are different varieties of material covering. In this way we are entangled, and we are desiring, and nature is giving us facility to enjoy our desires. This is the material world. --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1968/680616_aniruddha.md|Letter to Aniruddha, 1968]] - [[../../letters/1968/680616_satsvarupa.md|Letter to Satsvarupa, 1968]] - [[../../letters/1969/690616_arundhati.md|Letter to Arundhati, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690616_pradyumna.md|Letter to Pradyumna, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690616_rayarama.md|Letter to Rayarama, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690616_rupanuga.md|Letter to Rupanuga, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690616_steve.md|Letter to Steve, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690616_visala.md|Letter to Visala, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1971/710616_karandhara.md|Letter to Karandhara, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_bhagavan.md|Letter to Bhagavan, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_bob.md|Letter to Bob, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_jayapataka.md|Letter to Jayapataka, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_madhudvisa.md|Letter to Madhudvisa, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_prajapati.md|Letter to Prajapati, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_satsvarupa.md|Letter to Satsvarupa, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720616_tribhuvanatha.md|Letter to Tribhuvanatha, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1975/750616_narayana.md|Letter to Narayana, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750616_yadunandana.md|Letter to Yadunandana, 1975]]