# June 15 *Lectures from this day: 20 recordings* --- **[[spoken/680615le.mon|Lecture Engagement — June 15, 1968, Montreal]]** Ladies and gentlemen, this Kṛṣṇa conscious movement is reviving our original consciousness. At the present moment, due to our long association with matter, the consciousness has become contaminated, just like when the rainwater falls down from the cloud, the water is uncontaminated, distilled water, pure, but as soon as the water falls down on this earth, it becomes mixed up with so many dirty things. When the water falls, it is not salty, but when it is touched with the matter, or earth, it becomes salty, or tasty, or something like that. --- **[[spoken/720615r1.la|Room Conversation about Science — June 15, 1972, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...past misdeeds, and this man cuts your hand, he creates another misdeed. In this way we become bound up by one deed after another. *Karma-bandhanaḥ*. **Prabhupāda:** Oh, yes. First of all whether that... will be able to do so [indistinct]. And even they are able too... Śyāmasundara: No, like changing the chromosomes and gene structures they've mutated bodies. Just like there was a..., few years back there was a drug called Thalidomide, which was given widely to pregnant women. It was supposed to help them, but it turns out that it mutated many babies. It changed the cell structure in the womb, and they all came out without any limbs—born without arms and legs. --- **[[spoken/720615sb.la|SB 2.3.19 — June 15, 1972, Los Angeles]]** **Devotees:** All glories to Śrīla **Prabhupāda**. **[devotees offer obeisances] Prabhupāda: Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Pradyumna: *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* Shall we finish the... Do you want to read the rest of that purport, Śrīla Prabhupāda? **Pradyumna:** So on the purport on page 153, the second paragraph: "The camel is a kind of animal which takes pleasure in eating thorns. Similarly, a person who wants to enjoy family life, or the worldly life of so-called enjoyment, is compared with the camel. Materialistic life is full of thorns, so one should live only by the prescribed method of Vedic regulations, just to make the best use of a bad bargain." --- **[[spoken/730615sb.may|SB 1.9.49 — June 15, 1973, Māyāpur]]** **Pradyumna:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [leads chanting of verse] [**Prabhupāda and **devotees repeat] *pitrā*—by his uncle, Dhṛtarāṣṭra; *ca-anumataḥ*—with his approval; *rājā*—King Yudhiṣṭhira; *vāsudeva-anumoditaḥ*—confirmed by Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa; *cakāra*—executed; *rājyam*—the kingdom; *dharmeṇa*—in compliance with the codes of royal principles; *pitṛ*—father; *paitāmaham*—forefather; *vibhuḥ*—as great as. --- **[[spoken/740615r1.par|Room Conversation — June 15, 1974, Paris]]** "Gradually people will become dwarf, will die very soon, mostly unfortunate, eating too much, and very much sexually agitated, no money, and independent, and the women, all unchaste." --- **[[spoken/740615r2.par|Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-Van-Kha — June 15, 1974, Paris]]** **Prabhupāda:** In old age he'll be crippled like that. Then he said that "I am also going to be like that? No. What is the value?" Then he began meditation, how to stop old age. Then he gradually became very great, saintly person and studied *Veda, karma.* And by bad *karma,* one becomes subjected with material tribulation, and the most of the bad *karma,* he thought, was killing of animals, so he wanted to stop this. That is Buddha's..., "Stop animal killing." *Sadaya-hṛdaya darśita-paśu-ghātam.* **Prabhupāda:** Yes. Three is offered to the enemy. If I offer something, three, that means "You are my enemy." **Yogeśvara:** Now, one thing is that we accept Buddha as incarnation of Kṛṣṇa on reference from *Vedas,* but Buddha denied the value of the *Vedas.* --- **[[spoken/740615sb.par|SB 2.1.7 — June 15, 1974, Paris]]** "O King Parīkṣit, mainly the topmost transcendentalists, who are above the regulative principles and restrictions, take pleasure in describing the glories of the Lord." **Prabhupāda:** > prāyeṇa munayo rājan > nivṛttā vidhi-ṣedhataḥ > nairguṇya-sthā ramante sma > guṇānukathane hareḥ > [[sb/2/1/7|[SB. 2.1.7] ]] --- **[[spoken/750615mw.hon|Morning Walk — June 15, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Prabhupāda:** They understood. Because when Kaṁsa was baffled in killing the children of his sister, he regretted that "I have killed so many children of you, my dear sister. I am awaiting the most abominable hellish conditions." He admitted. [break] **Ambarīṣa:** ...don't know what good and bad is. They think if you don't kill anybody that you will go to heaven. I mean any human being. **Siddha-svarūpa:** But they think that this is only one? They do accept that there's life after this life and that they will live either in heavenly planets... --- **[[spoken/750615r1.hon|Conversation About Educational System — June 15, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Siddha-svarūpa:**Yes, that's actually... I was writing an article on the educational system and how it should be changed. Maybe even just for..., print a few copies, just for teachers... **Prabhupāda:** Of course, you can write articles, but that will not be effective unless your plan is practical. **Siddha-svarūpa:**Yes. So perhaps I'm not..., then, I'm not, you know, I'm not sure whether or not I, in other words, whether or not the process is..., what I'm trying to..., put the *Bhagavad-gītā* into this present school system or to simply have your own school system apart from it. --- **[[spoken/750615r2.hon|Room Conversation — June 15, 1975, Honolulu]]** After describing all the faults of Kali-yuga, Śukadeva Gosvāmī is saying, "My dear King, *rājan,* this Kali-yuga is full of faults just like the ocean." *kalau doṣa-nidhe.* *Doṣa-nidhe* means this ocean of faults. *Doṣa-nidhe.* Simply by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa one can become free from all his contamination and go back to home, back to Godhead. This is the special advantage of Kali-yuga. This advantage is not... So if one has taken to this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, chanting, then he is saved. Not only saved; he goes back to home, back to Godhead. Not only saved, but he is dispatched in another place, where there is no danger. *Padaṁ padaṁ yad vipadāṁ na teṣām* [[sb/10/14/58|[SB. 10.14.58] ]]. One is transferred to the spiritual world, for them, this nonsense material world, where danger is there in every step, it is not for them. They are transferred. Just like here is epidemic, so a family is transferred to another place. So by this chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa will transfer to the safety place, go back to home, back to Godhead. It is so nice. Otherwise, you become victimized. You see? --- **[[spoken/750615r3.hon|Room Conversation — June 15, 1975, Honolulu]]** --- **[[spoken/750615r4.hon|Room Conversation — June 15, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Prabhupāda:** [indistinct—*kīrtana* in background throughout] ...mercy. That is the policy to make him surrender. There is no question of canvassing. Then he will automatically become. But if you say that you don't require training, take initiation. That is not possible. **Siddha-svarūpa:** There is a difference between saying that you don't require initiation and saying that they should chant and become prepared, they should prepare themselves first in their understanding before you request initiation. Because I see so many people, they push people to... **Prabhupāda:** No, they should be advised to chant. At least at this time they should be advised to become qualified so that they can be initiated. Just like we see Arjuna. Arjuna was talking to Kṛṣṇa just like friend, but when the puzzling was not solved, then he said, "I don't find anyone who can solve my problem; therefore I accept You as my spiritual master," *śiṣyas te 'haṁ śādhi māṁ tvāṁ prapannam*[[bg/2/7|[Bg. 2.7] ]]. --- **[[spoken/750615sb.hon|SB 6.1.7 — June 15, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Prabhupāda:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [chants with devotees responding] [chants verse word for word with devotees responding] So last week we discussed Parīkṣit Mahārāja's sympathy with the suffering humanity. This is Vaiṣṇava. The Vaiṣṇava, or devotee, he is the perfect sympathizer for all suffering humanity. Others' sympathy is not perfect. They are planning so many things—opening hospitals or charitable dispensaries, schools, lunatic asylum. These are all public sympathetic activities. But they are not... They are, of course, good to some extent. If a man is suffering from the bodily ailments, if he is given some relief in the hospital, or if the society is not educated, give him education, this is all good work undoubtedly. But the ultimate good work is not known to them. They are taking care of the external symptoms. Why a person, a living entity, is put into that condition? And if that condition is ended, that is real sympathy. A person is suffering from some disease. He goes to the doctor, physician. He gives some medicine—immediate some relief from the pain. This is one sympathy. And there is another sympathy, that "Why the man is getting such disease and suffering? Why not stop the cause of the disease?" That is real sympathy. --- **[[spoken/760615bg.det|Bg 2.1-2.12 Reading — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **Prabhupāda:** Just rub your finger, you'll find so many germs. Nobody can get in the kitchen, huh? [*japa*] "Sañjaya said: Seeing Arjuna full of compassion and very sorrowful, his eyes brimming with tears, Madhusūdana, Kṛṣṇa, spoke the following words." --- **[[spoken/760615in.det|Initiations — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **Prabhupāda:** Go on with... You go on with your *mantra.* You can perform bathing ceremony. [chants *Brahma-saṁhitā* and *Caitanya-caritāmṛta Ādi-līlā ślokas* responsively for installation of Gaura-Nitāi Deities] --- **[[spoken/760615mw.det|Morning Walk — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **Satsvarūpa:** Yes. And their main program is every day they go every day on the lawn at the university and they set up a *paṇḍāla* tent and chant for about two hours. And they are building a truck for distributing *prasādam* in the wintertime on campus... **Satsvarūpa:** Yes. Very nice, clean house, but not much bigger than a house like that. But very nice and clean. **Prabhupāda:** Who cares for it? [laughter] Wine is highly taxed in India. When I was manager in Dr. Bose's laboratory, he was manufacturing [indistinct] alcohol for medicinal purpose. The cost was one rupee eight annas per gallon for manufacturing. But the government was levying duty, for medicinal purpose, five rupees per gallon, whereas those who are purchasing liquor, fifty-eight. The cost was one rupee eight annas. The government would take profit out of it, fifty-eight rupees. --- **[[spoken/760615r1.det|Room Conversation with George Gullen, President of Wayne State University — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **George Gullen:** ...I'm the president of Wayne State University. I'm very pleased to be asked to come and visit with you. [break] [to Gullen:] It is essential knowledge for the whole human society. There are two things: matter and spirit. We can understand, every one of us, we are combination of two things: matter and spirit. The matter is the body, and the spirit is the moving force. **Prabhupāda:** But the modern civilization, throughout the whole world, they are very serious about the matter, but they are completely in ignorance about the spirit. What is your opinion about these things? --- **[[spoken/760615r2.det|Room Conversation — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:** [reading] "...who has made it his life's work to debunk the so-called miracle powers of god-men the world over, and said that he is afraid for his life. Amongst those he has challenged is Satya Sai Baba, a mystic who has thousands of followers in South Africa. The man who is said to expose fraudulent practices amongst miracle workers is Dr. Abraham T. Kavoor, who recently held a spell-binding magic show at the Bangalore Town Hall to debunk the miracles of god-men. He claimed that several of the tricks demonstrated had, in fact, been learned from persons who had duped the public that they could perform miracles and other extraordinary acts. And this, he believed, would lead to an attempt on his life. 'I am not afraid of gods. They don't exist. But I am afraid of god-men, because they are alive. They have thugs as agents. If a good man like Gandhi could be assassinated, what keeps a Kavoor from suffering the same fate?' Addressing a press conference, Dr. Kavoor implied that an attempt might be made on his life if he tried to expose the fraud practiced by god-men because this would involve a physical search of the persons involved. Hence his insistence that his investigation would have to be preceded by their permission. [The permission of these so-called mystics; registered letters.] To date, he said, he had written six registered letters to Satya Sai Baba issuing his famous challenge, but had no reply from him as yet. Asked how he produced ash and other objects out of nowhere, Dr. Kavoor indicated that one of the methods was by concealing the objects to be materialized inside of his coat. The rest was pure sleight of hand. Photographs of him [Sai Baba] exposing his coat had been published both in the national and international press, he said. Reporting that *haṭha-yogī* L. S. Lal had confessed to him that his much-vaunted show of walking on water had been pure trick designed to make some money, Dr. Kavoor said, 'How long can the government of India tolerate such hoaxers who claim to have supernatural powers and exploit the ordinary men?' " **Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:** " 'Just as it has dealt with black marketers and smugglers, it is high time the government took immediate action to round up all those who claim supernatural powers.' While he was happy that Bangalore University has already established a committee to investigate miracles and superstitions, he cautioned them to be very careful, as even the scientists were not infallible." **Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:** They are also fallible, they can also make mistakes. "Experts Misled: For instance, investigators in universities in the West were known to have been misled by tricksters who claimed para-psychological powers." Like ESP. --- **[[spoken/760615r3.det|Conversation with Clergymen — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **Lekhaśravantī:** Śrīla Prabhupāda, this is Father Kern and Father Scheuerman. Father Scheuerman is from this church across the street from the temple here. He came also tonight. **Prabhupāda:** We are habituated to sit cross-leg, like that. They have learned also. Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa. So people in general, they are now out of God consciousness. Is it not? **Scheuerman:** Yes, I would agree that in our society, that the consciousness of God is definitely on the wane. There's no question about that. We find it very, very difficult, I think, even to speak about the Lord God in the presence of people, because the ears are closed or stopped. There's not a willingness to listen. --- **[[spoken/760615sb.det|SB 6.1.49 — June 15, 1976, Detroit]]** **Translation:** "As a sleeping person acts according to the body manifested in his dreams and accepts it to be himself, so one identifies with his present body, which he acquired because of his past religious or irreligious actions, and is unable to know his past or future lives." [break] --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1969/690615_krsna_devi.md|Letter to Krsna Devi, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690615_sivananda.md|Letter to Sivananda, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1970/700615_rupanuga.md|Letter to Rupanuga, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1970/700615_tulasi.md|Letter to Tulasi, 1970]] - [[../../letters/1971/710615_citralekha.md|Letter to Citralekha, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/710615_rupanuga_bhagavan_satsvarupa.md|Letter to Rupanuga Bhagavan Satsvarupa, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/710615_svarupa.md|Letter to Svarupa, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1972/720615_himavati.md|Letter to Himavati, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720615_siddha_svarupananda.md|Letter to Siddha Svarupananda, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1975/750615_pusta_krsna.md|Letter to Pusta Krsna, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750615_w._d._currier.md|Letter to W. D. Currier, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1976/760615_bhavabhuti.md|Letter to Bhavabhuti, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760615_gopala_krsna.md|Letter to Gopala Krsna, 1976]] - [[../../letters/1976/760615_riddha.md|Letter to Riddha, 1976]]