# June 8 *Lectures from this day: 9 recordings* --- **[[spoken/720608le.la|Lecture [partially recorded] — June 8, 1972, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** The person in knowledge, he must see that "I cannot avoid death, I cannot avoid birth, I cannot avoid old age, I cannot avoid disease so long I have got this material body." But Kṛṣṇa says, *janma karma me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ* *[[bg/4/9|[Bg. 4.9] ]]: "Anyone who understands Me in reality, what I am, then he immediately becomes immune from these four things." *Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti* [[bg/4/9|[Bg. 4.9] ]]. After giving up this... This body we have to give up. And then next body, *tathā dehāntara-prāptir...* [[bg/2/13|[Bg. 2.13] ]] So a devotee at least is not going to be cats and dogs or trees. The nondevotees, they are. Now they are... Now the modern advancement is to be naked. So these people are going to be trees. You know Yamalārjuna. You have seen the picture. They were dancing, and they were taking bath naked, and they were not ashamed when Nārada Muni was passing. So he cursed them that "You are so fool, you have lost your sense. All right, next life you become a tree, immediately." So these senseless, shameless persons who are advancing in their knowledge by becoming naked, they are going to be tree next life. The naked tree is standing naked for many thousands of years. Or animals—they have no shame. So if human being becomes so shameless, then next life is to become animal and trees. But in the universities, they say that "What is the wrong if I become an animal?" --- **[[spoken/740608ar.par|Arrival Address — June 8, 1974, Paris]]** **Prabhupāda:** So, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness philosophy is very simple, but the dull-headed person cannot understand. That is the difficulty. In the *Bhagavad-gītā* it is said that the... There are many classes of men, they have been classified as the *duṣkṛtina, mūḍha, narādhamā, māyayāpahṛta-jñānā*, and all of them are based on the atheistic theory, "There is no God. I am God." *Asuri bhāvam, asura. Asura* means they defy God, "I am God. Who is God?" Just like Hiraṇyakaśipu and his son, Prahlāda Mahārāja. Prahlada Mahārāja is devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa, and Hiraṇyakaśipu would not accept. "Who is God? I am God." This is atheistic attitude. So the atheist are divided into four classes. Number one is *duṣkṛtina. Duṣkṛtina* means they have got merit. *Kṛti* means meritorious. The modern men, they have got merit. Especially the Western people, they have got nice merit. Just like while passing through the city, we saw very nice buildings. So to construct such buildings it requires merit, undoubtedly. But what for this building? *Duṣkṛtina*, only for committing sinful life. Therefore it is called *du*, *duṣkalya*. Meat-eating, illicit sex, intoxication and gambling. Meritorious they are undoubtedly for constructing this building, but what is the purpose? The purpose is sinful activities. These things are going on. Therefore they are called *duṣkṛtina*. And *mūḍha. Mūḍha* means they cannot understand what is God. It is very simple thing. Anyone can..., a child can understand. Take for example your body, my body. What is the important thing in the body? The soul. Without the soul, you may be very big man, even Napoleon Bonaparte, but as soon as the soul is gone, it is useless. The whole world is useless. Anyone can understand. Where is now Napoleon Bonaparte, who struggled so much for glorifying France? But where is that gentleman? Finished. As soon as the soul is gone... You may keep one statue, dead statue, that is another thing. But you do not know where the soul has gone and what he is doing now. --- **[[spoken/740608mw.gen|Morning Walk — June 8, 1974, Geneva]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...Ignorances. They have opined, they have given the opinion that children born between the ages of twenty years and thirty-six years, they are healthy. But we have got experience that children born even at..., in India, twelve, thirteen years, they were healthy. **Satsvarūpa:** The parents were twelve or thirteen. The children were healthy. But this magazine said that children are healthy if the parents are from twenty-one to thirty-six. **Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:** Oh. In the *Bhāgavatam,* you said that by the age of sixteen a girl should be married, or twenty-four for a man. We were just reading that... --- **[[spoken/750608mw.hon|Morning Walk at Kailua Beach — June 8, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Śrutakīrti:** [introducing recording] The following conversation takes place on **Śrīla Prabhupāda's** morning walk, on June 8th, 1975, at Kailua Beach, Hawaii.Prabhupāda: ...devotees are described as *siddha-sattva-maṇi, siddha-sattva-maṇi.* [break] **Prabhupāda:** ...people, by not believing in the next life, they have dismissed all problems. Very happy life. **Prabhupāda:** That's right. Very good civilization. [break] ...Āryan civilization. This is not Āryan civilization. Barbarian. [break] A small child, he knows that "I shall become like my elder brother. I shall get this body, next body." And these people, they cannot understand that there is next body. That means their civilization is less than a child's civilization. [break] ...*dehantara prāptiḥ.* [[bg/2/13|[Bg. 2.13] ]] --- **[[spoken/750608sb.hon|SB 6.1.6-7 — June 8, 1975, Honolulu]]** **Prabhupāda:** *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [chants with devotees responding] [chants verse, word for word, with devotees responding] [O greatly fortunate and opulent Śukadeva Gosvāmī, now kindly tell me how human beings may be saved from having to enter hellish conditions in which they suffer terrible pains.] --- **[[spoken/760608gc.la|Garden Conversation — June 8, 1976, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...next life, on account of his sinful activities he, if he becomes a dog in the same land, then what is the benefit? Everyone will treat him as dog, even though somebody knows, "This dog was formerly our prime minister." [laughter] Then what is the benefit? To remain in the prime minister's post, and next life he's going to be a dog, then what is the benefit? **Prabhupāda:** Hmm? Discuss amongst yourselves. This is the point. We have got a short duration of life, and we declare independence of the laws of nature, laws of God, and do whatever we like, and as a result of our activities, we are obliged to accept a body which is not desirable. Then where is my independence? Why do they think very independent and act independently? Is it not foolishness? Discuss amongst yourselves. **Prabhupāda:** Ah, thank you. This is the disease. *Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate* [[bg/3/27|[Bg. 3.27] ]]. The rascal, he is bewildered, *vimūḍhātmā,* on account of false egotism. Just like we are inviting everyone: "Please come and learn *Bhagavad-gītā."* "Huh! *Bhagavad-gītā.* Let us go the sea and swim." Surfer, surfer. They are taking so much trouble. I have not see here; in Hawaii. For hours together, struggling with waves. I've seen it South Africa also, very fond of this surf sporting. So they are wasting so much time and laboring so hard just to become fish. Yes, they are going to be fish, because at the time of death they'll think of "How I am jumping in the water, surfing." That is natural. *Sadā tad-bhāva-bhāvitaḥ* [[bg/8/6|[Bg. 8.6] ]]. --- **[[spoken/760608mw.la|Morning Walk — June 8, 1976, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** ...from the ground. So the tree is the son, and the earth is the mother. So what is the wrong argument there? We have got experience that a child is coming from the womb of the mother. So why we should suggest a nonsense creation, that there was a chunk and there was creation? What is this? Talk on this point. Where is your experience that all of a sudden a chunk dropped and there was creation? We have got experience that creation is there. Mother is there, and a child is coming. This is the creation. So wherefrom this idea comes, that without father and mother, creation is possible? What is his argument? He is great scientist. Let him... **Prabhupāda:** What? Then why nature did not take care of you? [laughter] Therefore you are a rascal. **Rāmeśvara:** Śrīla Prabhupāda? The trees, they produce seeds, and the seed drops on the ground, and than another tree comes. --- **[[spoken/760608r1.la|Room Conversation — June 8, 1976, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** Hitler one side, fought with the Britishers, smashed them. This is one cause. Another cause: Hitler helped Subhas Chandra Bose to organize I.N.A. Two causes, the Britishers to go away. Otherwise, Gandhi's noncooperation movement was started in 1917, and we got our independence in 1947. **Prabhupāda:** Thirty years he could not do anything. And Subhas Chandra Bose in 1940 or '42, he went out of India and organized this I.N.A with the help of Hitler, and the Britishers were obliged to leave India. What do you think? That is my estimation. **Prabhupāda:** And Hitler not only helped Subhas Chandra Bose to organize this I.N.A. organization, but by fighting with the Britishers, he smashed... The British lion was bandaged. There was a cartoon picture. I've seen in that way. The lion is lying down and bandaged, [makes some gestures] here and here and here, there, patched, British lion. [laughter] That's a fact. --- **[[spoken/760608sb.la|SB 6.1.42 — June 8, 1976, Los Angeles]]** **Prabhupāda:** [leads singing of *Jaya rādhā-mādhava;** prema-dhvani]**jaya rādhā-mādhava kuñja-bihārī **Pradyumna:** [leads devotees in chanting] *Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya.* [Devotees repeat] [break] --- ## Letters - [[../../letters/1968/680608_rayarama.md|Letter to Rayarama, 1968]] - [[../../letters/1969/690608_ananda.md|Letter to Ananda, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690608_hansadutta.md|Letter to Hansadutta, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1969/690608_ishan.md|Letter to Ishan, 1969]] - [[../../letters/1971/710608_jadurani.md|Letter to Jadurani, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/710608_karandhara.md|Letter to Karandhara, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1971/710608_punjab_national_bank.md|Letter to Punjab National Bank, 1971]] - [[../../letters/1972/720608_acyutananda.md|Letter to Acyutananda, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720608_gargamuni.md|Letter to Gargamuni, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1972/720608_giriraja.md|Letter to Giriraja, 1972]] - [[../../letters/1973/730608_karandhara.md|Letter to Karandhara, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1973/730608_madhudvisa.md|Letter to Madhudvisa, 1973]] - [[../../letters/1974/740608_acyutananda.md|Letter to Acyutananda, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/740608_damodara.md|Letter to Damodara, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/740608_hansadutta.md|Letter to Hansadutta, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/740608_revatinandana.md|Letter to Revatinandana, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/740608_rupanuga.md|Letter to Rupanuga, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1974/740608_syamasundara.md|Letter to Syamasundara, 1974]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_doc_dockstader_shari_dockstader.md|Letter to Doc Dockstader Shari Dockstader, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_dr._w.h._wolf-rottkay.md|Letter to Dr. W.H. Wolf-Rottkay, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_gargamuni.md|Letter to Gargamuni, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_hansadutta.md|Letter to Hansadutta, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_mooljibhai_patel.md|Letter to Mooljibhai Patel, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_mr._n.v._bhakta.md|Letter to Mr. N.V. Bhakta, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_revatinandana.md|Letter to Revatinandana, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_sri_govinda.md|Letter to Sri Govinda, 1975]] - [[../../letters/1975/750608_sudama.md|Letter to Sudama, 1975]]