Śrutakīrti: [introducing recording] The following conversation takes place on Śrīla Prabhupāda’s morning walk, on June 8th, 1975, at Kailua Beach, Hawaii. ¶
Prabhupāda: …devotees are described as siddha-sattva-maṇi, siddha-sattva-maṇi. [break] ¶
Harikeśa: I haven’t listened to it all, though. That’s why the tapes aren’t done. [break] ¶
Prabhupāda: …people, by not believing in the next life, they have dismissed all problems. Very happy life. ¶
Bali-mardana: They have one saying, “Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you’ll die.” ¶
Prabhupāda: That’s right. Very good civilization. [break] …Āryan civilization. This is not Āryan civilization. Barbarian. [break] A small child, he knows that “I shall become like my elder brother. I shall get this body, next body.” And these people, they cannot understand that there is next body. That means their civilization is less than a child’s civilization. [break] …dehantara prāptiḥ. ¶
Bali-mardana: Even every child knows that “When I grow up, I will have a different body,”… ¶
Prabhupāda: Yes. ¶
Bali-mardana: …but they do not know. ¶
Prabhupāda: These people, they do not understand. What kind of civilized men they are? Less than a child, and they are proud of their science. [break] ¶
Devotee: They’re trying to catch some fish. ¶
Paramahaṁsa: What are they doing? ¶
Devotee: They’re fishing. ¶
Prabhupāda: Oh. ¶
Devotee: Crabs. [break] ¶
Prabhupāda: …fisherman? ¶
Devotee (2): Yes. ¶
Prabhupāda: They keep this side open and this side covered. You see that? ¶
Devotee (2): Yes. ¶
Prabhupāda: Front side covered, back side open. [break] …some fishermen. [end] ¶