# Room Conversation — August 15, 1971, London [Partial recording] **Prabhupāda:** In the Kali-yuga everyone is *śūdra*. What he'll fight? Fighting is not the business of a *śūdra*. It is meant for the *kṣatriya*. And nobody is being trained as *kṣatriya* or *brāhmaṇa*. Everyone is being trained as *śūdra* or utmost *vaiśya*, how to make money. That's all. One class of men is being trained how to serve and get some money, another class is being trained how to make money by exploitation. That is capitalist and communist. The communists are the *śūdras*. They are protesting that "You are exploiting us and getting money. It must stop." That is Communism. Is it not? And the *vaiśyas*, they are trying to exploit others. Some way or other bring money. So there are these capitalists and *śūdra* and *vaiśya*. There is no *kṣatriya*, there is no *brāhmaṇa*. Therefore the whole social structure is lost. So we are trying to create some *brāhmaṇas*. And people if follow our instruction then whole social structure is again revived. Hare Kṛṣṇa. So we have got very serious mission. [end]