# Room Conversation — July 6, 1971, Los Angeles <audio controls preload="metadata" src="https://media.prabhupada.io/audio/1971/710706R1-LOS ANGELES.mp3"></audio> Govinda dāsī: [laughing][indistinct] souls in the universe... **Prabhupāda:** Yes. And your name will be perpetuatedin the *Bhagavat*. You've done a great service. Yes. This is recognized. So introduce this *tulasī*plant; teach them. That is your special concern, how to grow *tulasī*. Govinda dāsī: I planted some yesterday. They should be up by next weekend. **Prabhupāda:** Who has taken charge? Govinda dāsī: This boy. What's his na...? It starts with a V. **Prabhupāda:** Anyway, give him always instructions, and enquire how it is done, how it is going; if not, what is the defect. In this way, all the centers, that is your special business: how to grow *tulasī*. It is very important task. Without *tulasī,* no temple is perfect. If *tulasī* does not grow, it means there is want of devotion. This is the point. I am commenting on the..., my Guru Mahārāja's devotional service instruction in *Bhagavat.* He has written, there is mention of *tulasī.* In that connection I am mentioning in regard of Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, "Govinda dāsī has done a great service." Yes. In this way, that is your special... And you also plan how to introduce our books in the educated circles. I have no shortage. You should always be engaged—not a single moment to spare without serving Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Not a single moment. Even sleeping we shall serve. [devotees enter, offer obeisances] *Jaya.* Sai is also a nice boy, improving his Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Try to convert all these hippies to this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. They are our good friends. Give them nice *prasāda*, call them, bring them here, chanting. In this way. And decide who has come [indistinct]. We have to work for it. **Gaurasundara:** Together with Sai, there are two other boys that were initiated, so they should have sacred thread, also. [indistinct] **Prabhupāda:** The process isI shall send you the sacred thread, and... You have got tape? **Gaurasundara:** No, we haven't.... **Prabhupāda:** Tape should be played, directly hear, on the right ear, and then *yajña* performed. Offer the sacred thread and read the *mantras,* chant the holy names, *prāṇāṁas*, nicely. Then teach him how to chant ten times*, oṁ bhūr bhuvaḥ svaḥ tat savitur vareṇyaṁ bhargo devasya dhīmahi* *dhiyo yo naḥ pracodayāt.* This is one. Again*, oṁ bhūr bhuvaḥ svaḥ tat savitur vareṇyaṁ bhargo devasya dhīmahi...* Ten times, each *mantra*. Try it. **Gaurasundara:** Could we make the tape now, if we have no tape? **Prabhupāda:** I sent you one tape. **Gaurasundara:** No, we sent it back to Hridayānanda Mahārāja. He... **Devotee:** There is no tape. We were going to.... **Prabhupāda:** Get one, several small tapes, and I can chant and distribute. **Devotee:** Not..., not Dictaphone tapes. **Prabhupāda:** Eh? **Devotee:** Not Dictaphone tapes? **Prabhupāda:** Yes, Dictaphone. It will be dictated in the Dictaphone, and the tape will be sent, and you can hear the sound. **Devotee:** So it [indistinct]. Govinda dāsī: Or a three-inch reel. You can get three-inch reels that look the same. I don't know about the speed. **Devotee:** [indistinct]play on the Dictaphone. Govinda dāsī: Speed.Well, it depends on the speed of the tape recorder. **Prabhupāda:** Eh? Speed will be mentioned there, that speed. Govinda dāsī: Śrīla Prabhupāda? **Prabhupāda:** Hm? Govinda dāsī: Last year, just when I was leaving I asked you a question that how can I. Is there some prayer for understanding the separation with the spiritual master? **Prabhupāda:** There is no separation, so long you are engaged in service. I never think that I am separated with my *guru,* spiritual master. I never think it. Why do you think like that? You should be engaged in the service. Govinda dāsī: There was a prayer by Lord Caitanya. **Prabhupāda:** Eh? Govinda dāsī: There was a prayer that you told me, by Lord Caitanya... **Prabhupāda:** Hm. Govinda dāsī: ...and I... **Prabhupāda:** What is that prayer? Govinda dāsī: I don't..., I don't remember what... You just said that last prayer of Lord Caitanya, and I was uncertain which prayer. Gaurasundara asked me which prayer that was, and I was uncertain which it was. [talking to Gaurasundara] You can explain [indistinct]... **Prabhupāda:** Anyway, so long you are engaged in the service of the spiritual master, carrying his orders, you are not separated. That is [indistinct]. If we do something else besides spiritual master, according to my whims, then we are separated. Just like when you read *Bhagavad-gītā* you're not separated from Kṛṣṇa. When you worship Deity of Kṛṣṇa, you are not separated from. This is the conclusion, absolute world. Either he can be present physically or he's present with his order—the same thing. **Gaurasundara:** So you will be sending three tapes... **Prabhupāda:** Huh? **Gaurasundara:** ...tapes here? **Prabhupāda:** Yes, yes. **Devotee:** So is it better to [indistinct] **Prabhupāda:** You get the small reel tape..., Dictaphone tape with the speed mentioned, that will be... **Devotee:** I think the tape recorder is [indistinct]. **Prabhupāda:** Is it working or not? **Aravinda:** It will work. I will need a fuse. I've asked them to get a fuse. **Prabhupāda:** Fuse? **Aravinda:** A fuse, because this is 120 volts coming, so a different fuse is needed. **Prabhupāda:** Oh! **Aravinda:** So I have asked him to get it. I hope he got it. **Prabhupāda:** So, who will fix something, then why did he bring it? **Aravinda:** Hm? **Prabhupāda:** The fuse cannot be had? **Aravinda:** Yes, they are getting it. A little difficulty. **Prabhupāda:** Difficult? **Aravinda:** The difficulty is that the place that carries them is far away. **Prabhupāda:** Eh? **Aravinda:** The difficulty is that the place that carries the fuse, that has the fuse in stock, is far, far from here. **Prabhupāda:** Far from here? **Aravinda:** Yes, and we have to make a special... **Prabhupāda:** On another planet? [laughter] What is far from here? **Aravinda:** [indistinct] **Prabhupāda:** We are going in..., traveling all over the world, and within Los Angeles it is far from here? [devotees laugh] I have got another tape, Dictaphone. You have? **Aravinda:** Yes. **Prabhupāda:** Here, another. **Aravinda:** It is working? **Prabhupāda:** I do not know. **Aravinda:** I'll see. Govinda dāsī: [indistinct] [devotee enters, offers obeisances] **Prabhupāda:** If he wants to come here, I am here until the fifteenth. He can come here. But you will see, he is very weak. Govinda dāsī: He can sleep out in the car. **Prabhupāda:** All right. [devotee offers obeisances] Wherever we may remain, Kṛṣṇa is always there. I mean Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa's representative, is always there. Simply we have to engage ourselves in his service. *Jaya*. Hare Kṛṣṇa. **Devotee:** [to other devotee] You were at the airport? [indistinct] fuse... Govinda dāsī: [explaining to other devotee what Prabhupāda had said] He said..., Aravinda said it's far place from here, then "What do you mean, far? On another planet? We're traveling all over the world..." [break] [end]