# Srila Prabhupada in New Dwarka **Location:** Los Angeles **Duration:** 57:03 <div class="video-container" style="position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%;"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/d7xlh0EUrOU" style="position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; pointer-events: auto; z-index: 10;" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> [Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7xlh0EUrOU) --- ## Transcript **[00:51]** When there's a decline in religion I descend. **[01:09]** Or My devotee I may send. **[01:59]** He's the kind and gentle soul who's heart is never cold, **[02:05]** So peaceful and poetic with a message true and bold. **[02:12]** He's never seeking praise, so silent and so grave, **[02:17]** and his transcendental love is the magic in his ways. **[02:23]** And when I see his love I know I've got a long, long way to go. **[02:29]** When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside? **[02:44]** He's always meek and mild, with a warm and friendly smile. **[02:51]** So simple in his living, singing all the while. **[02:57]** He sings out Krsna's name, His glory and His fame. **[03:02]** To serve his Lord and master in pleasure or in pain. **[03:09]** And when I see his love I know I've got a long, long way to go. **[03:14]** When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside? **[03:51]** And when I see his love I know I've got a long, long way to go. **[03:56]** When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside? **[04:12]** You'll find no lust and greed in a heart that's pure and free. **[04:18]** He's a lover of the Lord and his life is ecstasy. **[04:24]** He only dies to live and living tries to give **[04:30]** the happiness that's found in the sound of Krsna's name. **[04:36]** And when I see his love I know I've got a long, long way to go. **[04:42]** When will I taste the love that he is feeling inside? **[04:58]** O merciful Prabhupada, your eyes they gaze **[05:05]** Taking heard-hearted souls and making them pure. **[05:13]** You're mace is your mercy, soothing and warm **[05:21]** Your love is a guard from maya's dark storm. **[05:32]** Your heart it contains, the Lord's loving grace. **[05:39]** The smile you partake of, face to face. **[05:48]** You give us all hope, as the ship was going down. **[05:55]** With you as the Captain we surely won't drown. **[06:06]** Every town and village will sing Krsna's name. **[06:11]** Bringing forth the prophecy that Lord Caitanya proclaimed. **[06:21]** Param guru gave books to cure me of diseases that come with this age. **[06:32]** Goloka, full of spiritual pleasure, he reveals on every page. **[07:25]** My dear grandfather spiritual master, unto you I most humbly pray **[07:37]** That this serpant-like non-devote in the dust of your feet will stay. **[08:18]** Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the source of all the be. **[08:32]** The embodiment of bliss, the destination of the pure devotee. **[08:43]** He's the all-pervading truth, the eternally existing youth. **[08:49]** And He comes to take you home, yes He comes to take you home. **[09:01]** Of the splendid, He is splendor, He is victory and adventure. **[09:07]** He is the good quality in all righteous men. **[09:12]** Of creation He is beginning, middle and end. **[09:26]** Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. **[09:33]** Of the senses He is the mind, among men He is the monarch. **[09:44]** Of subduers, He is time. **[09:50]** Of secrets, He is silence and He comes to end the violence that terrifies the Earth. **[10:02]** Yes He's come and taken birth. **[10:08]** In the sound of His holy name, the Lord and His name are the same. **[10:14]** That's the nature of the absolute. And He comes to give His truth. **[10:24]** As He plays upon His flute. **[20:49]** We simply follow the predecessor's instruction, that's all. **[20:55]** Our movement is very easy because we haven't got to manufacture something. **[21:03]** We simply repeat the words and the instruction given by the predecessor. **[21:14]** Krishna instructed Brahma, Brahma instructed Narada, Narada instructed **[21:22]** Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva instructed Madhvacarya, and in this way... **[21:31]** ...then Madhavendra Puri, Isvara Puri, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, then the Six Gosvamis, **[21:40]** then Srinivasa Acarya, Kaviraja Gosvami, Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha Cakravarti, **[21:51]** Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta **[22:00]** Sarasvati, and then we are doing the same thing. There is no difference. **[22:07]** That is the specific procedure of the Krsna consciousness movement. **[22:14]** You are singing daily, **[22:19]** guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ar na koriho mane asa. **[22:28]** Very simple thing. **[22:30]** We are receiving the transcendental knowledge through guru-parampara succession. **[22:38]** So we have to simply take instruction from guru, **[22:46]** and if we execute that to our heart and soul, that is success. **[22:55]** That is practical. **[22:58]** I have no personal qualification, but I simply tried to satisfy my guru. That's all. **[23:10]** My Guru Maharaja asked me that "If you get some money, you print books." **[23:20]** So there was a private meeting, talking, some of my important Godbrothers also there. **[23:33]** It was in Radha-kunda. **[23:34]** So Guru Maharaja was speaking to me that, **[23:42]** "Since we have got this Bagh Bazaar marble temple, there has been so many dissensions, **[23:52]** and everyone thinking who will occupy this room or that room, that room. **[24:01]** I wish, therefore, to sell this temple and the marble and print some book." **[24:11]** Yes. **[24:14]** So I took up this from his mouth, that he is very fond of books. **[24:20]** And he told me personally that "If you get some money, print books." **[24:24]** Therefore I am stressing on this point: **[24:28]** "Where is book? Where is book? Where is book?" So kindly help me. **[24:33]** This is my request. Print as many books in as many languages **[24:42]** and distribute throughout the whole world. **[24:45]** Then Krsna consciousness movement will automatically increase. **[24:52]** Now the educated learned scholars, they are appreciating our movement **[25:00]** by reading books, by taking practical result. **[25:04]** Dr. Stillson Judah, he has written one book, perhaps you know, **[25:14]** "Hare Krishna and Counterculture", a very nice book about our movement, **[25:24]** and he is giving importance. **[25:28]** He has admitted that "Swamiji, you have done wonderful thing, service to the humanity." **[25:38]** A man must have life to be a preacher. **[25:41]** A dead man can not preach. **[25:44]** You must preach Lord Caitanya's message all throughout the world. **[25:49]** And if you get money, print books. See love for Krishna unfurl. **[25:56]** They are making propaganda that "These American devotees, they are CIA." **[26:05]** This propaganda is very strong in India **[26:09]** Making the people against these American boys who are preaching. **[26:15]** You give him one book, that Scientific Basis of... **[26:25]** Yes, you can give him one book. You read it. **[26:30]** Dr. Gerson has promised that he will read every single one of your books **[26:34]** before he writes his book. He's very serious. **[26:38]** That is very kind of you. We have got about fifty books. **[26:42]** He knows. **[26:45]** And it is increasing. **[26:47]** Perhaps in the next two months we shall increase another seventeen books. **[26:52]** There are seventeen books pending to be published. **[26:57]** Srila Prabhupada, what these tests will show is that when a person came first he was **[27:00]** doing some drugs or some nonsense, and now that he's taken to Krsna consciousness, **[27:04]** he has become so much more of a healthy and wholesome person. **[27:07]** That is the test. That is the real test. **[27:11]** How we got so many devotees from the hippie group? **[27:18]** So how they have given up all their bad habits. This is the real test. **[27:24]** The function of his testing is to show that, that that change takes place **[27:29]** in a way that other scientists will accept it. That is his purpose. **[27:33]** Oh, that's nice. That is already admitted by educated class. **[27:42]** Therefore they are becoming attracted. **[27:45]** ...I would like to show them the path, so that they won't be cheated any longer. **[27:48]** Provided you know the path. **[27:50]** I am trying to learn. **[27:52]** So first of all learn it, otherwise you will be cheating. **[27:56]** If you do not know the art, and if you want to do some benefit **[28:08]** ...to the others, then that is cheating. **[28:11]** Suppose a physician, he does not know what is the medical science. **[28:16]** And if he wants to become a physician, that is cheating. **[28:20]** Quack! **[28:26]** I hope through the study that I'm doing with the devotees, **[28:29]** and the book that comes out of it that it will help them **[28:32]** not be cheated any longer and show them the right way. **[28:35]** Yes. **[28:38]** He is advising his patients that they should chant **[28:41]** Hare Krsna and come to the temple. **[28:43]** Then he is very nice. Then you are friend. **[28:46]** Another thing I would like to do is go to Gurukula and test the children **[28:50]** and show what NBC did was very false and unfair. **[28:55]** On television they did a very bad story on Gurukula. **[28:59]** Yes, they're, they cheater. He wants to cheat and get some money. **[29:04]** That's all. Because the whole so-called human society is combination of **[29:12]** cheater and cheated. So anyone who is acting without Krsna consciousness, **[29:19]** he is a cheater. **[29:22]** And anyone who is thinking himself advanced without Krsna consciousness, **[29:27]** he is cheated. This is the basic principle. **[30:42]** They also say that no one can every be pure... **[30:46]** That everyone is doomed to be a sinner. **[30:48]** Well that is atmavan manyate jagat. **[30:53]** That is the conditioned soul's qualification. **[30:57]** That if he is a fool, he thinks others fools. **[31:02]** Everyone, he thinks he is like me. **[31:10]** That is nature. **[31:14]** Atmavan manyate jagat. **[31:18]** Everyone thinks others like himself. **[31:22]** If he is a fool, he thinks all are. **[31:26]** So these things are no arguments. **[31:34]** Nobody has seen God, how do you take these statistics? **[31:41]** Can you say like that, any statistics. **[31:43]** That nobody has... **[31:45]** Maybe you may not have seen him, the one who has seen God. **[31:49]** That is quite possible because you have not scrutinizingly studied all the men of the world. **[31:56]** Then how you can say nobody has seen Him? **[31:59]** You have not seen him, the man who has seen Him. **[32:01]** He will not admit his fault. **[32:07]** He will accuse others, nobody has seen God. **[32:10]** Why? You may not have seen, but why you say nobody has seen? **[32:14]** You have not seen that person who has seen God. **[32:19]** Therefore you say like that. **[32:22]** Those people who wrote the bible never... did not see God. **[32:35]** That is... when God is canvassing, "Here I am, Krishna." They will not see it. **[32:44]** And still the accuse, "Nobody has seen." **[32:52]** O Lord the Sun's effulgence hides your face. **[32:57]** Your blissful form lies far beyond my eyes. **[33:03]** And now your wonders call my heart's embrace. **[33:08]** As dawn displays your beauty in the sky. **[33:15]** The rainbow shows the colors of your dress. **[33:20]** The movements of the Moon reflect your mind. **[33:27]** Your smiling is the cause of happiness. **[33:32]** And love exists because you are so kind. **[33:39]** O Govinda within my heart celestial heardsmen lotus-eyed work. **[33:50]** Your precious gift of love impart. **[33:57]** O you who stand behind the Sun. **[34:02]** You're the one, you're the one in my heart, in my heart. **[34:24]** The rolling rivers flow forth from your veins. **[34:31]** The clouds that fill the sky come from your hair. **[34:38]** The seeds of life are watered by your rain. **[34:43]** And from your breathing blows the mighty air. **[34:50]** Our Lord you are the source of all I see. **[34:54]** Your movements are the passing days of time. **[35:01]** You are the resting place of all the be. **[35:07]** Love exists because you are so kind. **[35:13]** O Govinda within my heart celestial heardsmen lotus-eyed work. **[35:24]** Your precious gift of love impart. **[35:30]** O you who stand behind the Sun. **[35:36]** You're the one, you're the one in my heart, in my heart. **[36:22]** O Govinda within my heart celestial heardsmen lotus-eyed work. **[36:33]** Your precious gift of love impart. **[36:40]** O you who stand behind the Sun. **[36:51]** You're the one, you're the one. **[37:03]** Just try. ; [37:07] : **[37:19]** May I try the beat? **[37:21]** Yes, give him. **[37:24]** Ah, ah, it is coming. **[37:36]** It's too fast... no. **[37:39]** You can try. Give him, he can try. **[37:47]** Srila Prabhupada... Prabhupada, on our tape recorder here that we have, **[37:53]** we can make it so you can play nicely and then later on at... **[37:59]** at our own time, we can play the mrdunga and karatals nicely. **[38:03]** This way, we won't waste any of your time. **[38:06]** Do you think that's a good idea? **[38:08]** See, we can... after you are gone at our own time, we can play nicely. **[38:16]** Do you think that is a good idea or not? **[38:18]** I do not know. **[38:20]** I am not an expert. **[38:23]** Well if we can't get someone to play drum... **[38:25]** We would like to do that. **[38:27]** We would like to do it like that Prabhupada. **[38:35]** Then do that. **[38:36]** No, if we could get the people to play now, that would be the best. **[39:34]** My father wanted me to become like this. **[39:39]** Know everything, what is going on. **[39:43]** He never wanted me to be a worldly man, earning money. **[39:47]** He never wanted. **[39:52]** There was some arrangement for my going to England **[39:57]** After my college education, to become barrister. **[40:03]** My father refused. "No, my son is not going to be a mleccha." **[40:14]** As the air carries different flavors of the physical elements. **[40:25]** Like the flavor of some flower or the aromatic dust of the flower and on account of **[40:38]** different dust, the air scents in different flavors or accepts different color. **[40:51]** Similarly everyone has got a certain type of desire **[41:01]** so according to his desire the Lord appears to Him **[41:07]** although such appearance, such form is not His original form. **[41:21]** So the demigods are actually not the original form of the Lord, **[41:30]** but they are presented to different persons according to their desires. **[41:37]** So Daksa, he wants to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna. **[41:44]** He is not interested with the demigods. **[41:49]** Purport **[41:51]** The impersonalists, they imagine the form of the Lord as different demigods. **[42:02]** Just like the Mayvadis, they worship pancopasana, five demigods. **[42:12]** Actually they do not believe in the form of the Lord. **[42:17]** But for the facility of the worshipper they think one may imagine some form. **[42:26]** Generally they imagine the form of Visnu, the form of Shiva, the form of Ganesh. **[42:35]** The form of Durga and the form of Sun-God. **[42:53]** This is called pancopasana. **[42:56]** But Daksa wanted to worship not that imaginary form, **[43:03]** but the supreme form of the Lord, Krsna. **[43:09]** This payment, Book Trust has paid to me but that is my money, not your money. **[43:18]** I am paying you. It has been simply sent through you, transferred. **[43:25]** But actually Book Trust is not paying to me. **[43:28]** No. **[43:31]** So under the circumstances, what is the account? **[43:34]** You are debiting that pay to A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. **[43:39]** I have written it as a transfer because your Divine Grace told me **[43:43]** you were going to give me these certified checks. **[43:45]** I could do it another way. **[43:49]** If you do not want to deposit the checks with us I will write it as a donation **[43:56]** to some project in India. Whatever the money will be used for. **[44:01]** I can simply make it a donation. **[44:03]** Donation? That's all right. But you are not donating, you are taking payment. **[44:10]** Only if you want. **[44:12]** No... **[44:14]** You give me a statement. If not many months, at least in this month. **[44:23]** What is the receipt and how it is spent and what is the balance. **[44:29]** For this account in India. **[44:32]** No, no. Every month you will give me a statement. **[44:36]** Of BBT? **[44:38]** Yes. So much received, so much spent. **[44:42]** O yes. I can do that. Every month. **[44:44]** Every month. **[44:45]** No problem. I am doing that already **[44:48]** and sending a full report to Bhagavan and Hansadutta each month. **[44:52]** So you can give me one copy. **[44:54]** Yes. I never did before because I didn't want to disturb you with the details. **[44:58]** No... details. ; [45:01] : **[45:03]** Give me this. ; [45:05] : **[45:14]** So I'll have to also keep a record, so you can for transfer receive the check. **[45:29]** Yes. **[45:32]** Is that alright? **[45:33]** Yes. **[45:35]** I am giving in favor of BBT and you... **[45:40]** We are acting like your bank. **[45:44]** Yes. That's right. That is nice. **[47:30]** I have got standing order of the American Embassy. **[47:36]** 18 copies of each book as soon as it is published. **[47:39]** The same standing order. **[47:41]** But these people are not doing their job. **[47:44]** In India management is very... **[47:47]** So for the time being the money will not be used for the construction in Mayapur. **[47:54]** It will be used to print books. **[47:57]** Mayapur, they have already taken one and a half lakhs from me. **[48:01]** Now Gopal Krsna in India requested that BBT give him a loan of $160,000 **[48:12]** Where? **[48:14]** In India, during the Mayapur festival he requested a loan from US BBT for $160,000. **[48:23]** Which would be used to construct the second residence building. **[48:29]** How he will pay back? **[48:31]** His plan was that the American temples would purchase rooms **[48:35]** and over a period of four or five years they would pay that money back. **[48:40]** So is that still approved by your Divine Grace? **[48:44]** Yes. I have no objection. **[48:47]** The only think is we will have to delay the loan because **[48:51]** for the next three months all our money will be used to print these seventeen books. **[48:56]** First of all books, then the loan. **[48:59]** We cannot hold up printing. That is not possible. **[49:06]** This you must always keep in view. **[49:09]** We are not going to... The surplus money we are going to pay. **[49:14]** Not that at the cost of stopping printing. **[49:18]** You must always keep it... **[50:44]** When you require money for printing, **[49:23]** there is no question of loan for temple building. This should be our... **[49:52]** That is our motto. Krishna is Sun. **[50:00]** So when Krishna Sun is there all these glowworm like men will be finished. **[50:11]** Keep this sun always shining. Then these glowworms will be finished. **[50:31]** One, that Sikh... Bhajan? What is that? **[50:35]** Yogi Bhajan. **[50:39]** Aha. He came to invite me. **[50:41]** Really? In Hawaii? ...Ah, yes. **[50:45]** He came to our temple a few nights ago also for arotik. **[50:49]** He has a big following. **[50:51]** So he came to invite me... I indirectly refused. **[50:59]** So if you are theologicians, then you must know what is God and abide by His order. **[51:17]** What do you think, Dr. Judah? ...Pardon? **[51:20]** What do you think this proposition? **[51:22]** Yes, well, I think you're quite right. I think that it is... **[51:28]** Certainly, in our day and age many of us don't really know God. **[51:31]** Then he is not theologician. He is theosophist. **[51:36]** We know about God, but we do not know God. I would agree. **[51:43]** Then that is theosophist. Theosophists, they are thinking **[51:48]** There is something superior. But who is that superior, they are searching out. **[51:55]** The same thing: a boy, he knows, "I have a father," but "Who is my father? **[52:04]** That I do not know." Oh, that, you have to ask your mother. That's all." **[52:08]** Alone he cannot understand. **[52:12]** So our proposition is that if you do not know God and here is God, Krsna, **[52:22]** why don't you accept Him? **[52:25]** You do not know first of all. **[52:28]** And if I present, "Here is God," then why don't you accept? **[52:35]** What is the answer? **[52:42]** We are presenting God, "Here is God." **[52:46]** I suppose one of the difficulties for certainly many in the older generation **[52:51]** is that we follow certain patterns of life and the... It is difficult to change. **[53:05]** This is the great problem. **[53:07]** Then you are not serious about God. Then you are not serious. **[53:11]** Therefore Krsna said, sarva-dharman parityaja mam ekam saranam: **[53:14]** "You have to give up." **[53:16]** That's right. **[53:17]** Because if you are not prepared to give up, then you cannot accept God. **[53:30]** I think you're being a little unfair to Dr. Crossley. **[53:34]** I think what you say is true, that the most important thing we can do **[53:42]** is to seek and know God, but I don't think it's right to say that **[53:48]** it's a bad thing to study how other people or how man has... **[53:54]** No, I don't say bad thing. **[53:56]** I say if you are serious about God, now, here is God. **[54:00]** That's what a university in part is for, **[54:03]** to study about how people have thought on different matters. **[54:08]** No, that's all right. I have already said. If you are seeking after something, **[54:11]** if you get that something, why don't you accept it? **[54:23]** Do you believe that Christ said that Krsna was his father? **[54:28]** The name may be different. Just like in our country we say this flower something. **[54:34]** You say something, something. But the subject matter must be the same. **[54:42]** Name is not... You can say in a different way, as you understand. **[54:50]** But God is one. God cannot be two. You may give Him different names. **[54:59]** That is different thing. But God is one. God cannot be two.