# Program at Latrobe University, Melbourne, 1974 **Location:** Melbourne (1974) **Duration:** 14:00 <div class="video-container" style="position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%;"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qZIu0AC51Ho" style="position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; pointer-events: auto; z-index: 10;" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> [Watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZIu0AC51Ho) --- ## Transcript **[02:32]** So without any more verbiage, I'll present our spiritual master. **[03:24]** We receive knowledge from the perfect person. **[03:30]** When we receive knowledge from imperfect person, the knowledge is not complete. **[03:39]** ...touch water at the present moment. **[03:43]** But the same water in the summer season will be very pleasing. **[03:48]** So the water is the same, but due to seasonal changes, sometimes the **[03:56]** water is very pleasing and sometimes it is very painful. **[04:00]** So this material world, so long we shall remain in the material world, **[04:05]** That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. **[04:09]** brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati samah sarvesu bhutesu mad-bhaktim labhate param **[04:19]** Brahma-bhutah means self-realized, that "I am not this body; I am spirit soul." **[04:27]** This is the first realization, self-realization. **[04:33]** This Krsna consciousness movement is educational movement. **[04:37]** It is not a religious sentiment; it is a science. And as we have got our books also. **[04:44]** You have seen. There is demonstration of the book. **[04:48]** We have got already twenty books of four hundred pages each, and we are going on, **[04:57]** writing more books. Everything will be finished in eighty books. **[05:02]** So if you want to know through science and philosophy, we have got our books. You can read. **[05:09]** And even if you read the complete set, it will take your whole life to finish it. **[05:16]** But if you cannot read or if you do not want to... **[05:58]** ...Now if the intelligentsia of Australia cannot sit for half an hour and listen **[06:05]** to a gentleman speak about love of God, it does not speak very well for you. **[06:10]** We are simply not asking for disturbance. We are not asking for violence. **[06:16]** But we will meet violence with violence. We are not artificially pacifists. **[06:21]** We are asking you to listen like gentlemen. We have come here in good will. **[06:27]** We have come here not to cause any disturbance. **[06:30]** So we ask you please to have that much respect for our spiritual master. **[06:35]** Now at this time, if there is any question about Krsna consciousness philosophy... **[06:42]** Not about fighting. We can go on the street and fight and we can solve everything out there. **[06:45]** We have come here to speak about spiritual matters. **[06:49]** If you want to hear about spiritual matters, let's speak together like brothers and sisters. **[06:54]** Let's not cause a disturbance. I have an ego; you have an ego. **[06:59]** If you do something to flick off my ego, I may get mad. **[07:01]** If I do something to flick out your ego, you get mad. **[07:04]** So we'll go out into the street and settle it like cats and dogs? No. **[07:08]** We're not here at this university to act like that. **[07:11]** We're supposed to have raised above that platform. **[07:14]** So please, we ask you to present sober questions to our spiritual master. **[07:21]** Yes, sir? **[07:23]** Jesus. He believe Jesus is going to come back again. **[07:25]** Well, he is coming, welcome. We shall welcome. It is very good news that Jesus is coming. **[07:33]** Jesus had no reputation. He wore sandals and he was crucified between two thieves... **[07:41]** He didn't carry flick knives... Hare Krsnas. **[07:43]** And your spirituality is in a Rolls Royce on a padded seat, and you're all into money, you Krsnas. **[07:51]** You want money. You rip off people in the streets. **[07:53]** No. I don't want money. **[07:56]** You said "Violence with violence." When you said "Violence with violence," **[08:02]** that's what you believe. Jesus turned the other cheek, and he expects his followers to. **[08:14]** There are many ways to handle a problem. Lord Buddha also taught how to handle a problem **[08:24]** and Lord Jesus Christ also taught a way... **[08:27]** You have had three questions, maybe someone else has a question? One question. **[08:38]** Through serving God we can. **[08:53]** Another question? Yes, sir? **[08:59]** Do you consider your movement the major form of enlightenment **[09:03]** emanating from the United States today? **[09:06]** What order of priority had your movement in the White House psychological warfare department? **[09:14]** Will you also be coming on to our July 4th demonstration again this year to try and f.... it up **[09:22]** and divert people away from taking up real political issues concerned with Australia? **[09:27]** All right, we can answer you one at a time. I can answer them for you if you like. **[09:32]** Our movement is not coming from the United States. If you have some paranoiac stigma about **[09:41]** anything coming from the United States, well, that's your hang-up, not mine. **[09:45]** Second of all, our spiritual master, he came to the United States to start this **[09:54]** Krsna consciousness movement because he got a free ticket on a boat to go there. **[10:02]** Because it was the mercy of this one lady who gave him this free ticket on a boat. **[10:06]** He came to America on the orders of his spiritual master. **[10:10]** This is the reason he came to America to start Krsna consciousness. **[10:14]** If you had sent him a free ticket, he probably would have come to Australia first. **[10:18]** He was a monk. He was a monk, a penniless monk in India, and he was trying to follow **[10:24]** the orders of his spiritual teacher by spreading love of God. **[10:28]** He was not trying to start any kind of a political movement. **[10:31]** Actually, he is trying to spark a revolution in consciousness. **[10:35]** I think that you are also interested in revolution. We are also interested in revolution also. **[10:41]** But we are interested in the revolution which will help people to feel peace with themselves, **[10:46]** whether they're Communists or Marxists or Leninists or whatever "ist" you like...