# Prabhupada's First Visit to Australia, Sydney, 1971
**Location:** Sydney (1971)
**Duration:** 6:53
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## Transcript
**[00:39]** His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
**[00:44]** A spiritual master who knows the absolute truth arrives on time in a blue Volkswagen combivan.
**[00:50]** For members of the Hare Krishna movement it's the first coming.
**[00:54]** For the press, just another Indian mystic, and for the Paddington mob, another curious visitor.
**[01:00]** His Divine Grace founded the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in 1966.
**[01:05]** But it is said that his disciplic succession can be traced back directly for five hundred years.
**[01:11]** According to his followers he is the divine representative of God and he is completely pure.
**[01:17]** Basically the movement he heads is austere and exclusive.
**[01:21]** Alcohol, tobacco and sex, other than for procreation, are frowned upon and diet is strict and simple.
**[01:27]** Disciples surrender everything they own when they join the movement
**[01:31]** and they survive on money from publications, donations and they say, "Krishna."
**[01:38]** God, or Krishna, is all-pervading. From His energy the five elements, material elements...
**[01:54]** The history of the movement they say can be traced back five thousand years
**[01:58]** when Krishna first spoke the truth in India.
**[02:01]** These days the headquarters are in Los Angeles where, according to one member,
**[02:05]** there are more frustrations.
**[02:07]** But today they say the most perfect person in the world is in this Paddington flat
**[02:12]** and the fifty members of the Sydney branch are ecstatic.
**[02:15]** Today, say the disciples, is a day of rejoicing and of peace, love and humility.
**[02:20]** But behind the facade there is some conflict and some sadness.
**[02:24]** Sheryl Zimmerer is eighteen, she tried university and a job in Treasurery
**[02:30]** before leaving both to join the sect a few months ago.
**[02:33]** Today, after her initiation by the spiritual master, she says she has found true happiness.
**[02:38]** But her mother and her aunt are not so sure. For them the ceremony represents
**[02:43]** an alienation from the type of life they hoped Sheryl might lead.
**[02:47]** Well I'm not happy with it, I don't go along with it, but it's her life, it's what she wants.
**[02:51]** So my husband and I make the best of it.
**[02:54]** What worries you about her being initiated? --Her future.
**[02:57]** Her whole future and the fact that they are teaching them not to have sex.
**[03:02]** I came here last night and the spiritual master was telling them that to have sex is like animals.
**[03:09]** Well this isn't the way I've brought my children up.
**[03:12]** When I hear this sort of think I wonder what her future is.
**[03:15]** She has given up university to do this, she's given up everything, she's not working
**[03:20]** and I can't see any future in it at all. What's going to happen in ten years time?
**[03:24]** And what religion are you, can I ask? --Church of England.
**[03:28]** And do you feel that...
**[03:30]** She's been christened, she's been confirmed in our own church
**[03:34]** and she's suddenly turned to this in a matter of two months.
**[03:37]** What do you think has attracted her most of all about this?
**[03:40]** Well she's been looking for something, she's and introvert,
**[03:43]** and she's felt that she's wanted more out of life than she's been getting.
**[03:47]** She's obviously getting it isn't she because she seems very happy since she has been here.
**[03:53]** Her ideas coincide with these peoples' ideas and I think they are very good living people.
**[04:00]** They are very sincere in their ideas, but they are not my ideas.
**[04:04]** This is one of the things you don't particularly appreciate is the prostrating...
**[04:08]** No, I can't see the point of doing this.
**[04:10]** Sheryl why do you in fact prostrate yourself like that.
**[04:13]** Well, it's a sign of humility. The spiritual master, he is a messenger from God,
**[04:19]** an associate of God. He's actually Krishna's friend, God's friend.
**[04:23]** This is why we bow down to the spiritual master
**[04:26]** because the spiritual master is giving us this knowledge,
**[04:29]** how to go back home, back to Godhead, back to Krishna.
**[04:32]** It's so potent in the world.
**[04:37]** We have fifty-two temples all over the world today.
**[04:40]** Your mother is worried that all the things you are saying are largely due to brainwashing.
**[04:47]** Are you worried that she is worried?
**[04:49]** Well, yes, I'm worried that she is worried but I don't think that she should be
**[04:53]** because you can see that there is peace and happiness there.
**[04:56]** Everybody has one goal. There's no bad relationships in the temple.
**[05:06]** People realize that we are all spiritual souls, all part of Krishna.
**[05:10]** Do you feel that she could have spiritual happiness and peace with herself without doing this?
**[05:16]** Of course. I thought that's what she was getting at home.
**[05:20]** I mean we love her very much at home. She's been brought up to the Christian religion.
**[05:26]** But there just seemed to be something lacking somewhere.
**[05:30]** This is a very hard question but if your parents wanted you to come home
**[05:36]** and to perhaps ignore all this and to perhaps get married like most normal
**[05:42]** eighteen year old girls, what would you do?
**[05:44]** I'd say I can't because we are all spirit soul and were only on this lifetime...
**[05:53]** This lifetime is like an eye-wink in the eternal time so we have to try to go back home,
**[05:59]** back to Krishna as soon as possible.
**[06:01]** There's no other bona fide spiritual master, this spiritual master is pure.
**[06:05]** You can tell just by association that he is pure.
**[06:08]** You can find out for yourself just by association. We don't ask you to believe...
**[06:13]** Just because he is such a pure soul, a lover of God. He's completely devoted to God.
**[06:19]** So Krishna says if you serve the spiritual master then it is better than serving Me.
**[06:26]** Krishna would rather you serve the spiritual master than He would to serve Him.
**[06:32]** Because the spiritual master is the friend of Krishna.
**[07:18]** This kind of objections are always made by the atheist class of men.
**[07:23]** Even Jesus Christ was crucified.
**[07:26]** So, this is material world, you'll find always such nuisance class of men.
**[07:34]** It must cost you a lot of money to go traveling around the world all the time.
**[07:38]** Yes. We have got about one hundred and two branches all over the world.
**[07:43]** Where do you get the money?
**[07:44]** We get money from God. We especially get money from selling our books.
**[07:53]** You have seen our books? We are selling, according to Indian exchange,
**[07:59]** we are selling about twenty-five to thirty thousand rupees worth of books daily.
**[08:41]** We can spend all of the money of the world. Unfortunately you do not give us the money.
**[08:49]** Well how do you spend it your grace?
**[08:52]** We are spending at least, at the present moment, eight hundred thousand dollars per month.
**[09:05]** Our religion does not say asceticism. Our religion teaches to love God.
**[09:10]** You can love God in your, this dress, there is no harm.
**[09:13]** But it is a self-denying...