# Speculators, mental * Brahmaloka free of, [[sb/9/5/22#purport|SB 9.5.22]] * fall from Brahman, [[sb/9/24/58#purport|SB 9.24.58]] * Lord unknown to, [[sb/9/8/21#purport|SB 9.8.21]] *See also:* Jñānīs; Philosophers *See:* Atheists; Impersonalists; Jñānīs; Philosophers; Scientists